From: “Kevin Carson” <>Date: August 16, 2008 7:29:52 PM GMT+01:00Subject: Re: NY Times sums up Georgian operation
On 8/14/08, Richard Moore <•••@••.•••> wrote:This seems to be Washington’s initial objective in launching the episode: to attempt to ‘isolate’ Russia by getting it expelled from the various global institutions, beginning most likely with the G8.Such a move, if it succeeded, might rile Moscow a bit, but would have little effect otherwise. Only some kind of economic boycott of Russia would cause pain, and that is very unlikely given Europe’s dependence on Russian-supplied natural gas. On first examination, I’d say this ‘isolate Russia’ initiative is a desperate defensive measure, aiming to decrease the rate at which EU-Russian exchange relationships are growing. I don’t see the US gaining anything here by such means.For the reasons you state, the practical effect of any such expulsionmight well be more like that of the English Reformation as describedin “1066 and All That”: The pope and his bishops seceding from theChurch of England.It would simply demolish whatever shaky pretense still exists thatsuch institutions are truly global, rather than those of onesuperpower. And it would also harden the coalescence of the worldinto two distinct camps, destroy the illusion that Europe was part ofAmerica’s global system, and heighten the sense that the EU was aneutal party between two contending geopolitical powers.—Kevin CarsonMutualist Blog: Free Market Anti-CapitalismStudies in Mutualist Political EconomyAnarchist Organization Theory Project
From: “Howard Switzer” <>Date: August 22, 2008 7:43:13 PM GMT+01:00Subject: Re: red-pill news to 21 AugHeavy Rains Drowning U.S. Crop Production Hopes————————–This posting is a bit late, as I’ve got about 700 messages in my in box. Butit’s relevant nonetheless. There is little doubt in my mind that these floodswere caused by HAARP, as a means of accelerating the program of globalgenocide through starvation. rkm –I agree it is probably caused by HAARP. I think they want to ruin the last of the farmers to get total control of the land. The time is nearing to when we simply have to go to plant based energy system and economy in their efforts to maintain a centralized system. They don’t just do genocide for nothing, right?Howard Switzer, Architect
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From: JAMESDate: August 25, 2008 5:34:42 PM GMT+01:00To: “‘Richard Moore'” <•••@••.•••>Subject: Don NordinHi Richard,Of course we are all Don’s fellow passengers on this dark voyage. While a few of us are up on deck watching in horror as the crazed senior officers are ordered to deliberately steer for the iceberg, the vast majority are below decks being seduced by their propaganda, believing all is well. Warnings to our fellow passengers have been ignored. The passengers and bulk of the crew implicitly trust the professionalism and integrity of the ships owners and senior officers. Why should they not? They know of no reason not to. They immediately dismiss us as numb nuts when we go below and attempt to explain what we have seen happening up top. As I have suggested to you on several occasions, I believe the only possible way to get the other passengers to listen is by clearly demonstrating that the ship’s owners, plus the Captain and his senior officers, have previous form for this… lots and lots of it. Tearing down Matrix history and presenting truth of the past is, I suggest, our only hope.Perhaps the time has indeed come to realize that it is to late to wrest control of the ship and direct it on to a safe new course. Can we really expect folk to grasp the fact that the nightmare of 9/11 was an inside job perpetrated by the powers that control the US, when they are unaware that the forefathers and agents of those very same elites were responsible for the entire carnage of the 20th century? This is where our last-gap energies must now be best concentrated. As you know, I am beavering away regards the truth of WW1 and the Russian Revolution etc being instigated by the self-same controlling Western elites. I still cling to a very slim hope that we can turn the ship round, but it requires a speedy and intense collaborative effort from all who realize what is happening.It is urgently important that as many people as possible are enabled to become aware since we cannot expect people to act on your Transformational Imperative if they don’t see the need for it. Little sparks can ignite a conflagration, and I still do believe that Escaping the Matrix will be such a spark. Can I suggest that all subscribers to Cyberjournal purchase a dozen copies of ETM as early Christmas presents for friends. Then, after reading it, each of those friends sends copies to another dozen friends, and so on, and so on. It’s a capitalist technique but desperate times call for desperate measures.Whatever, for the coming days and weeks I hope Don will accept my best wishes and the part of my energy I send him that he may be able to go easier on the path he has now to take.Best wishes,jim
From: “Dave Patterson” <>Date: August 23, 2008 3:21:35 PM GMT+01:00Subject: Re: Don Nordin: A Voyage Through Dark Times
Very interesting, I know many are thinking similar things.What you talk about as refusal to give up is also referred to as denial in other contexts. Acceptance is the final stage of this path. If the phoenix must conflagrate to bring the new world to birth, then that is what will happen. Not a criticism, just a comment – I too am in a similar position of having been fighting for years with no appreciable results – I don’t feel like giving up, but I am more and more getting the impression that waking the masses up to the danger we are in is not going to happen – and where does that leave us?dave
From: “Brian Hill” <>Date: August 25, 2008 1:18:30 AM GMT+01:00Subject: RE: Don Nordin: A Voyage Through Dark Times
Hopefully this is the hopelessness before the burst of an new age of hope. If my memory serves, that’s what happened in the 60s. I feel the same as Don. And, I notice among public speakers there is a noticible tendency to be repetitive, like, the first sentence here. I think this might be because we have reached the end of this old paradigm and are about to plunge into a new one, but we don’t know that yet.
From: •••@••.•••Date: August 23, 2008 3:31:38 PM GMT+01:00To: don nodinSubject: re voyage
hi don, long time no see/hear – i must have dropped off your list when i changed my email address some time ago.
we who have seen the shitstorm coming for lo these many years, have not shrunk from that reality, and haven’t gone mad or killed ourselves are truly unique beings – hello brother.
the one hopeful thing that i discovered 15 or so years ago that has kept me going is open money and community currencies – a systemic solution to the money problem, which is at the root of all our problems.
when i started working with michael linton in the mid 90’s i was working on a restoration project in a clearcut in clayoquot sound – just another attempt at a wake up call, a finger in the dike while the dike is crumbling.
by that time i thought the struggle was to somehow slow the corporate juggernaut so that enough of us would see and act appropriately to bring them to heel – i know/knew it was a pipe dream but what else was there? they have the money and we have squat.
the good news is that we are on the verge of a break through with projects in portland, vancouver and nanaimo – we now have software that enables the deployment of a money net making cc available to any community, network, association anywhere in the world. and because we still have the internet, it will spread like wildfire.
this is no pipe dream and it sure as hell helps me keep going.
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