It seems we have a new topic, one that brings us back home, to ‘escaping the matrix’. Thanks to Claudia Woodward-Rice for initiating this shift back onto friendlier ground. I’d like to apologize for any unnecessary upset that was caused by our intense foray into the climate issue. At the same time, I’m not sorry for the foray itself. I found it valuable as many of you did, both for the dip into science, and the extra light it shed on our belief thread.
From: Bill BlumDate: 26 December 2009 01:48:49 GMTTo: •••@••.•••Subject: Re: escaping the matrix
Richard,I’m very surprised at your expressing such insults about your readers: “I was hoping that with a simple scientific topic it might be possible to get people to think for a change. I suppose I should have known better.” … “The goal of getting people to think seems utterly hopeless (apart from those of you who already think).”Who do you think you’re talking about — a bunch of Sarah Palins? George W.? FoxNews?You must feel rather disappointed and frustrated to descend to such a level. On the climate issue the fault may lie with you; for example by placing such total confidence in the ice-core temperature measurements of centuries ago. I have a hard time accepting those results unquestioningly. And you’re much too conspiracy minded.I’m taking the time to write all this because I generally have great respect for your political and historical analyses.Your friend,Bill
From: ML PolakDate: 25 December 2009 15:11:14 GMTTo: •••@••.•••Subject: Re: escaping the matrix
rkm:In some sense, the biggest problem we face is the susceptibility of liberals to mass-media propaganda. I’ve posted several good analyses of that, from a psychological perspective, but everyone thinks it applies to everyone but them.
so true! mlp
From: stewart galeDate: 25 December 2009 12:11:48 GMTTo: <•••@••.•••>Subject: RE: escaping the matrix
Bugger meYou’ve been looking at this climate change malarkey since Dec 11th and you’ve discovered its all a fraud. Aren’t you brilliant?Please remove me from this ridiculous list
From: “Milton Block”Date: 25 December 2009 08:34:23 GMTTo: <•••@••.•••>Subject: RE: escaping the matrix
Richard,For me you are doing a fantastic ‘job’. Loved your research on global warming, saved me a lot of time and confirmed my views for some time from my own research.I tend not to rely just on figures, but what makes ‘sense’ to me, right or wrong, but hopefully, am always open to the other point of view. It is a beautiful thing to see as many aspects and views of the problem as you can handle, otherwise, how can you come to any worthy conclusion, if you do not have a worthy understanding of all points of view, and possible discover you are wrong sometimes? Experience teaches you to not jump in too quickly. Also, if you know the answer, you must know everything!?Perhaps also, there are greater forces at work, and ‘when the time is right’ all will be revealed, but hopefully each of us can be a part of the solution and not the problem – easy to say, but to honestly act upon it is not so easy, takes considerable self inspection, and beside, when is the right time to start?To accept there are problems and to have a level of understanding to discern the real ones and the cons, has been beneficial for me, but where I think we need to put our attention after that, is on the solutions. Once again, very easy said, but, if you are serious, where do you start? The first idea which now makes sense to me is that the ONLY way they will be solved, is by the PEOPLE, ask John Lennon. No answers come from governments or any number of institutions set up outside of the peoples approval or control to tell us what to do – just look at the mess they have created. From this point forward, and nothing has changed, the future is what we the people create……So, tell me what it is exactly you/we want to create??? If we do not know clearly, then what do we create? Confusion? What do we have now?Richard, you have put forward many ideas I think, but you can not do it all. Nor can I, or anyone. Did Jesus fix everything last time? No. Next time? I say no. We must fix it and not avoid our responsibility. I would love to see comments through your list and with your guidance, on exactly, exactly, what it is we want life to be. Perhaps starting with ourselves. How will we each be? And, what is stopping us?Can we move beyond “All we are saying, is give peace a chance” to “We are the Peace”. What are our core needs? For me it is Love, Peace and Beauty. Are these the real wealth? The real currency of life? Let ONLY these things influence your creation and I bet the real solutions will come. But we need to have the intention to get through the stumbling blocks.Notice though, how these things already really influence you. You think it is money, but is it really? Once we have a basis, then the practical issues can be resolved in the right way.Many things to discuss…Thank you Richard.Milton
From: Kenneth PollingerDate: 25 December 2009 18:35:28 GMTTo: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••>Subject: Re: escaping the matrix
Richard.I thoroughly enjoyed this email. I feel for your disappointment but as Jed McKenna stated:“We ultimately have to become DISILLUSIONED (break through ALL illusions) about EVERTHING in order to face and deal with Reality.” See Spiritual Enlightenment, by McKenna.Rather than continually trying to build a world-wide organization or even a GRAND PLAN of transforming culture/society/structures, maybe, just maybe, we need to form small intimate Circles of Transformation. Change myself first, then society MAY follow.But change myself first? What does this mean? For me, it’s the innerself first, especially overcoming egoism, judgmentalness, pride, prejudice, grandiosity, etc. And then contemplating and acting in a compassionate way (each one to decide what that means).And if societal change does NOT happen, at least there will be some of us who can offer alternative ways of being-in-the-world that others MAY want to emulate. But if not, such is life! And we MAY have to accept this as a fact and stop beating our heads over coming up with the GRAND PLAN, leading only to more frustration and more disappointment and another type of illusion.You have certainly tried–in many ways–your best. I, unfortunately, see your continual frustration and disappointment–almost despair–with changing the BIG PICTURE. I wish you luck on the NEW attempt–but it might also turn out to be another illusion. I hope not.I realize that I stress the spiritual dimension, but as a sociologist and student of politics, “the circulation of the elites,” unfortunately seems to be an ingrained principle in society.It’s hard enough dealing with my own “shadow” but undertaking what you have tried, many times, makes me feel for you. As an ex-Jesuit, and frustrated “revolutionary” in Latin America, I’m getting VERY tired even just thinking about what you frequently propose and those who seem to “love” the “mindfucking” that Fritz Perls talks about. Are we just mentally masterbaiting, periodically?Can’t wait for your–and others’ response.And, may 2010 be better for you!!Ken Pollinger, Ph.D., ex-Jesuit (http://www.NewAgePointofInfinity.com)PS Come to Costa Rica and take a break.
From: “Lincoln Justice”Date: 25 December 2009 19:36:36 GMTTo: “Richard Moore” <•••@••.•••>Subject: Re: escaping the matrix
Richard,No matter what others say or think, I appreciate the question you raised about climate change. I learned a lot and discovered the importance of a healthy skepticism. I have been a perpetual student and have been asking so many questions of my teachers in school that they hated to have me raise my hand.Regarding a new topic for discussion…. how about healthy FOOD. There is a new movie that focuses on a positive message rather than dooms day. We have been showing it as part of the Well-Fed Neighbor program. It could be a new focus for discussion and action:Here is a word from the producers:FRESH is more than a movie, it’s a gateway to action. Our aim is to help grow FRESH food, ideas, and become active participant in an exciting, vibrant, and fast-growing movement.<snip>
Thanks for all you do to help us escape the matrix.Lincoln B. Justice