@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 Sender: "dterry" <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cj#380> Police veteran lambasts drug laws Ex-San Jose Police Chief Joseph McNamara sez: <Well, one thought that we had was, suppose we could get the law enforcement community to say to the politicians, as we finally got them to say on the issue of gun control, look, help us, we need help.> Bullshit alert! Any politician (and the former chief of San Jose was quite a politician) who advocates gun control as a solution to the "crime problem" cannot be trusted on any other issue. And that is exactly what he did, and what he does. This is bulldata. cordially, Dan Terry @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 Sender: Francisco Lopez <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cj#382> Syed: Saudi dissident bartered for arms! I overheard from some acquaitances in the trading business a conversation about this same thing refering to a guy they told me was an Iraqui agent. I think the writer of this article should focus a bit more into what he wants to do with the information he have. He can editorialize and expose the facts within the perspective of his informed judgement or he can do a more objective journalism, inform and let the readers judge by themselves. If he try to make both without telling the readers, he may lose credibility and otherwise interesting information could be taken with a grain of salt. Anyway, I think his information is appreciated. Francisco Lopez Marketing, Financial and Economic Research; International Trade Miami Beach, Fl, USA 33139-1725 @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 Sender: •••@••.••• (Alan Fried) Subject: Re: cj#379> re: "Establishment a dirty fighter" Interesting thread you got there. Seems like history is usually (but not always) written by the winners. And the only difference between a patriot and a terrorist is who has the last word. What do you think? Alan Fried ". . . And the people who hide College of Journalism & Mass Communications themselves behind a wall of University of South Carolina illusion, 'Til it's far too late Columbia, SC 29206 when they pass away . . ." •••@••.••• @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 Sender: •••@••.••• (Barry D. Bowen) Subject: Re: Dugger: CALL TO CITIZENS (long, excellent) Dugger wrote: > > Why is there no longer any mass democratic organization we >can trust and through which we can act together? Where is the >strong national movement that is advancing working Americans' >interests, values and hopes? Where is the party of the com- >mon person? It's no coincidence that within the same histori- >cal moment we have lost both our self-governance and the Dem- >ocratic Party. The Democratic Party, on which many millions >of ordinary people have relied to represent them since the >1930s, has been hollowed out and rebuilt from the inside by >corporate money. What was once the party of the common man is >now the second party of the corporate mannequin. In national >politics ordinary people no longer exist. We simply aren't >there. No wonder only 75 million of us eligible to vote in >1994 did so, while 108 million more of us, also eligible, did not. So let us take back the party that is ours, rather than abandon it only to organize a well-intended footnote in political history. Many complements on the diagnosis. Many complaints on the prescription. Regards, Barry D. Bowen --------------------------------------------------------------- Email: •••@••.••• The Bowen Group Inc. Fax: 360-380-1791 6168 Evergreen Way Voice: 360-380-1790 Ferndale, WA 98248-9686 Business computing analyst, writer, consultant; Web consulting and content development. http://www.nas.com/~xeno -- published articles and other notes. http://www.nas.com/civic-access -- local government access web. --------------------------------------------------------------- @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. Moore (•••@••.•••) Wexford, Ireland •••@••.••• | Cyberlib=http://www.internet-eireann.ie/cyberlib Materials may be reposted in their entirety for non-commercial use. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~
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