@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 Sender: Arun Mehta <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cj#424> Thoughts on the 60's and political effectiveness That was a lovely contribution, Richard, one that I hope to see echoed on cyberjournal. There are fortunately lots of the '60s people active on the net, and I think we need to extract the essence from all the hype that surrounds that era. While I agree largely with the conclusions you draw, and must admit that I saw the hippies mainly from afar in India, or through the eyes of the friends I made a decade later in Germany, I would like to add to your list of achievements of the 60s generation, which might explain why I am perhaps a bit less pessimistic than you. Firstly with regard to the assimilation into culture. In Germany, "Sie" the equivalent of the polite French "Vous" was common before the sixties. It was then that the "Du" = "tu" become commonplace, at least among the young. Willy Brandt, who was mayor of Berlin in those heady days, spoke of the "March through the Institutions", i.e. suggested that the agenda of the protesters should be pushed through the political parties the trade unions, etc., which is what the Germans did. The Greens were the end product, but even the agenda of the conservatives underwent a sea change. A brilliant book that is surely hard to get is Ulrike Meinhof's "Die Wuerde des Menschen ist antastbar". This is a play on the statement in the universal declaration of human rights, to the effect that "The Dignity of Man is inviolate" Her title is,"The dignity of man is violate". (If an English translation is available, anyone who procures me a copy is a friend for life. I have the German original from the publisher Klaus Wagenbach). Anyway, these are the journalistic pieces of a mother of two who turned terrorist. You read the stuff a few decades later, and find that so much of what she found so frustrating as to drive her to violence is now in the agenda of all the political parties -- the lady would have easily made it into parliament on a Greens ticket. In Germany, the 60s maintained a fairly unbroken tradition through the nuclear and peace movements. The former nearly dealt a death blow to the powerful nuclear industry, the latter made sure that no further missiles could be stationed in Europe past the mid-80s, and dealt a severe blow to the arms industry. I think even the communists were impressed that youngsters in the west had succeeded where their ideology had not, and by reducing the growth of western armaments in western Europe may have helped reduce the fear perceived in the east, the peaceniks may have helped moderates like Gorbachev to come to power. What is needed today is to spread the 60s agenda into the rest of the world, and the Internet is the way to do it. We need the sexual revolution, we need to reduce our fascination with nuclear power, and we need to cut down our consumption of weapons. With your experience, Richard, and that of your list members, I'd love to have a focussed discussion on this aspect. Arun Mehta, B-69 Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-24, India. Phone 6841172,6849103 •••@••.••• •••@••.••• •••@••.••• http://mahavir.doe.ernet.in/~pinaward/arun.htm "I do not want my house to be walled in on all sides and my windows to be stuffed. I want the cultures of all the lands to be blown about my house as freely as possible. But I refuse to be blown off my feet by any."--Gandhi @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ A grain of dust, blown into a man's eye at a certain moment, may change the course of the world's history, still more easily the course of his own history; so I must be excused for recording similar trifles that shunted my destiney on to new lines. George Tyrrell (1861-1909) Autobiography and Life of George Tyrrell Aithnightshear caraid a g-cruadhtan -- Friends are known in distress Traditional Irish Proverb -rkm @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. Moore (•••@••.•••) Wexford, Ireland •••@••.••• | Cyberlib=http://www.internet-eireann.ie/cyberlib Materials may be reposted in their entirety for non-commercial use. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~
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