dialog + cyberjournal star chart

2005-07-19

Richard Moore

Friends,

Here's a posting from 1999 that I thought you might find amusing.
It's an astrological chart, based on the date (22 Jan 1995) of the 
first cj posting.

Following that are some reader comments on recent postings.

cheers,
rkm


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From: "Vadim Bondar" <>
To: •••@••.•••
Subject: Re: a posting from the past...
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 01:45:44 EST

Hi Richard,

It was lovely that you posted the first cj message. And since it had a date,
I've got an astrological chart for cj. Just for fun. Here are the excerpts:
(from http://www.thenewage.com/oracles/index.html)

"You are open-minded and democratic, enthusiastic, and have a definite sense
of mission. Above all, you are a progressive and enjoy putting into practice
that which is good for all. Your altruism could appear as coolness. At home
with different cultures, peoples, and lands, you love to work with (and in)
groups.

"You are unconventional, independent, and drawn to whatever is different and
original in life. You hate being tied down with the drudgery of routine,
preferring instead to keep your options open. You may find yourself involved
in causes that go against tradition, revolutions of one kind or another --
social or political. Your friends are probably also eccentric, in particular
those in authority, older persons, and men who are nonconformist.
Communication, computers, electronics, and everything new-wave is what you
star in.

"You have high ideals and an ability to enchant others with your words and
images. Your presence has a way of easing things, helping those around you
let go of any differences and stand behind what unites us all.

"You love all things plain and true, and possessing an innate sense of
religion and what's real. Not prudish, even communal, you insist on freedom
in all things.

"You like to work with words and ideas and have a natural appreciation for
anything that is literary or artistic. Your sense of discernment when it
comes to matters of literary and intellectual taste is very refined. You
could write poetry or prose, and you put a very high value on the written
word. You enjoy nothing more than a good conversation and may be very adept
at speaking and communicating.

"You value fairness in all things and go out of your way to be just. In
addition, you have an innate sense of how to work with and guide others in
making decisions. You understand the choices and can spot the right ones.

"You are an impartial thinker, democratic to the point of being impersonal.
Fascinated by the latest technology, you have very original ideas, an
inventor. Always thinking of the world as a unity, you are idealistic and
believe in putting into practice what is preached. You are group-conscious,
community-oriented.
...

Good luck to you, Richard, and long live cj.
Vadim.

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From: "waal" <>
To: <•••@••.•••>, <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: * Flash * China & Russia mobilize divisions to surround U.S. bases
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:09:39 -0700

These are a few more links
First from http://atimes.com/atimes/China/GG06Ad02.html 
        
July 6 2005 China knocking on Russia's door By Sergei Blagov 

Putin and Hu also agreed to strengthen military ties as they prepare to hold
joint military exercises next month. The war games, "Friendship 2005", to be
conducted in Russia and China from August 18-25, will be the largest between
the countries in 50 years. Russia will be represented by 3,000 members of
the air force, airborne troops and the navy, while China will commit about
5,000 soldiers and officials. 

and 
Bakiyev Wins Landslide in Kyrgyzstan, Courts Controversy with United States
To virtually no one’s surprise, Kurmanbek Bakiyev won Kyrgyzstan’s
presidential election in a landslide. However, Bakiyev caught many political
analysts off guard when, at his first post-election news conference on July
11, he raised the possibility of closing a US military base in Kyrgyzstan.

And http://www.eurasianet.org/departments/insight/articles/eav071305.shtml 
US AND NATO SECURITY AID TO UZBEKISTAN COMES UNDER SCRUTINY 
7/13/05

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Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: jackson davis <>
Subject: Re: Britain & America: the evolution of a partnership - Part 2
To: •••@••.•••

            rkm> * Britain's game plans in World War 1

Jackson: In view of recent developments, have you seen
any evidence that Chinese banks are becoming next
center of power? 

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Hi Jackson,

In that regard, I'd say that China today threatens
Anglo-American financial supremacy in much the same way that
Germany threatened Britain's prior to WW I. China's industrial
and economic strength are becoming awesome, and her efforts to
achieve secure oil supplies is comparable to the
Berlin-Baghdad railway. Thus it is not surprising that Washington
is preparing for war with China now in the same way Britain
prepared for war with Germany 

rkm

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From: "Earl" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: China & Russia mobilize divisions

                 rkm> Sorcha Faal's article may have been a hoax.

Richard,
 
A comment, for what it's worth.  Rense.com is a very good info
source, but is also more than a little sensationalist.  I use
it as a secondary source, going there several times a
week, and regularly find stuff here first, or that is little
reported elsewhere.  Nonetheless, I have one rule I follow: 
If this is the first time I've seen something, I wait until I
read about it elsewhere (I have other good sources) and that
it makes sense with what I've read before I take it seriously.
 Just as with MSM, mainstream media, I usually am a bit
skeptical.  Even then, I buy into something a little quickly
at times; it's part of the risk we take.

I have yet to find a source that has everything, or carries
the stories ahead of other sources, or is 100% reliable.  Such
a thing does not exist.  We all have our own sources and
reading habits.  Mine starts with reading the Dutch news
first, MSM news next on Yahoo where I can set up my page with
the content I want, including RSS feeds.  Then on to What
Really Happened.com which is a news gathering blog mainly - my
personal favorite general source (he also pulls articles from
Rense.com).  Then on to WSWS, which has the best news analysis
I know, even though only several subjects are dealt with. 
International Forecaster is another good one, as are others.
 From there on, it depends on the time I have, but like many
others, I have many other sources; you know many of them, too.
 If any one story appears only in one source, I set it aside
and wait for further info and/or corroboration, especially if
have no means of judging it.  With so many sources available
on the net today, that is not difficult.

And then, those who don't make mistakes are also those who are
not doing much.  Better to back off an article once in a while
than to ignore too much at the cost of 'safety'.  Better to be
a bit over involved than asleep.

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From: "Brian Hill" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: China & Russia mobilize divisions
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:06:29 -0700

Richard;

What I've noticed as internet news and research has developed
over the past years is that, because the internet is
uncensored and anyone can post anything, news reporters and
their audiences have had to become much more discriminating in
what they accept as the truth.  People like Mike Ruppert who
used to make many unconfirmed revelations, now must document
his statements which still have elements of his own personal
quirks.  It may be embarrasing to publish something that turns
out to be just someone's whacky idea or disinformation
attempt, but the result is that you won't be fooled again and
the general level of scholarship for researchers and readers
is raised.  So in the long run I think there is a general fine
tuning of research and writing going on through the internet. 
Bill Weinberg is a good example of someone who does impeccable
research.  He will not publish anything that is not fully
documented.  The result of this is that he misses some
breaking news stories, but he almost never publishes anything
that is not real news.  The down-side is that very often
breaking news stories come out half baked, half documented and
need to be further researched and/or better written, so my
solution is to send new and/or not well documented accounts to
a circle of trusted friends for confirmation or very often
rejection before blasting these maybe stories around too
widely.  The internet is seemingly making journalism common
ground with the two drawbacks of lack of documentation and
slowing the news stories while confirmation is generated.  But
now everyone is a journalist to one degree or another as well
reflected by Indymedia.  It is an exciting time for
truthseekers. Marshall McLuhan said, way back in the 1960s BC
(before computers) that the media would ultimately democratize
the world because the truth would be known by all.

Brian

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