-------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 20:33:11 -0800 From: Lynette <> Subject: The E. F. Schumacher Society . Buddhist Economics To: •••@••.••• http://www.smallisbeautiful.org:80/buddhist_economics.html I thought that perhaps this might interest people on cyberjournal as it relates to sustainable community, also. Happy New Year Lynette ------- Thanks Lynette, I sent them a Phoenix announcement. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 09:21:51 -0600 To: •••@••.••• From: T <> Subject: Re: newslog to Jan 13 http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1374 Here a few article you might like to look at. http://www.forcingchange.org/free_articles -------------- Hi T, Thanks, I sent them a Phoenix announcement. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:14:16 -0800 From: Phil Lyons <> To: •••@••.•••, •••@••.•••, •••@••.••• Subject: Re: * Announcing: The Phoenix Gathering * http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1375 Looks potentially elitist to me. Phil lyons ------ Hi Phil, Perhaps you had the impression the gathering was intended to be representative in some sense. It's not. It's meant to be a problem-solving event. If I wanted to find out how to build a bridge, I would gather engineers together. If I want to find out how sustainability might be achieved, I want to gather people together who have some expertise & understanding in that area. When it comes to doing something to achieve sustainability, that is a different matter. That becomes an initiative where democratic process becomes important. That is when a charge of elitism would be in order, if it applies. And any such initiative will have more chance of success if it is informed by good ideas. Coming up with those good ideas is the challenge faced by the Phoenix Gathering. cheers, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:42:39 EST To: •••@••.••• From: jfadiman Subject: Re: * Announcing: The Phoenix Gathering * California??? wow. That's a major shift to hold it behind enemy lines. best to you jim ------- Hi, One cannot slay the cyclops without entering its lair. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:04:04 +1100 From: Dreger <> To: rkm <•••@••.•••> Subject: re: * Announcing: The Phoenix Gathering * Hi Richard Thank you very much for that notice. I've been on, retired myself to, dropped out to, escaped to, the "fringes" for quite a while now - just working at a very low key local level with local people - such as the Men and Families Centre and the GROW organisation most recently - but/and this proposed gathering really grabs my attention. I feel like exclaiming, "Finally!! - there is the possibility at least of a gathering of very grounded, and at the same time informed and visionary people planning to get together to do some real work on brainstorming and beginning the process of setting out and setting down some feasible courses of action !!" Please keep me informed - and if possible I'll look at making an application to attend. Getting old{er} but still keen on participating at the larger/wider level in something with this potential. Cheers Ayran -------- Hi Ayran, Thanks for your enthusiasm. I was expecting more of that, a bigger response from the cyberjournal community generally. Strange. I also expected more responses to my 'challenge'. I guess I'll never understand people, a bizarre species, the only known irrational species. Animals never need psychiatrists, unless they hang out with humans. I'm adding you to the list of candidates, along with anyone else who expresses interest. The gathering will be limited to 24, as that will be most effective for achieving the objectives from a process point of view. I could use some help in defining the selection process. In order to 'seek creative responses to our crisis', which is the goal of the gathering, we are going to need to explore these primary questions: * What would a modern sustainable society look like, and how would it operate? * What would be a good conversion approach, technically speaking, to begin moving toward sustainable systems? * What would it take to make a beginning on the conversion project? Below, I've tried to identify the areas of knowledge and experience that are relevant to each of our fundamental questions. Please let me know, anyone, if I've left anything out... (Once an area is mentioned, it isn't duplicated for a later question) * What would a modern sustainable society look like, and how would it operate? - visionary & systems perspectives - computer modeling (so we can do modeling during the week) - ecological systems - economics - anthropology - equitable monetary systems - agricultural technologies & alternatives - transport technologies & systems - energy technologies & systems - appropriate technologies - housing & construction technologies & methods - geographical patterns of living, working, commuting - current practices in intentional sustainable communities - current examples of indigenous sustainable practices * What would be a good conversion approach, technically speaking, to begin moving toward sustainable systems? - the Cuban experience - adapting to post-Soviet oil cutoff - civil engineering - repurposing existing technologies & infrastructures - current initiatives toward sustainability, eg localization * What would it take to make a beginning on the conversion project? - transformational visions - the Venezuelan experience - missiones - political action, organizing, and lobbying, historical and current - social movements & activist practices, historical and current - memes & cultural movements - realities of political and economic power today - community organizing - public education campaigns and their potential & limitations - dialog & mediation practices ____________________ -- -------------------------------------------------------- cyberjournal: http://cyberjournal.org cyberjournal archives: http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/ Escaping the Matrix: http://escapingthematrix.org/ The Phoenix Project: http://phoenixgathering.blogspot.com/2008/01/phoenix-gathering-seeking-intelligent.html rkm blog: "How We the People can change the world": http://governourselves.blogspot.com/ The Post-Bush Regime: A Prognosis http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7693 Community Democracy Framework: http://cyberjournal.org/DemocracyFramework.html newslog archives: http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?lists=newslog Moderator: •••@••.••• (comments welcome)
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