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Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:37:43 -0800
From: Robert Bolman <>
To: •••@••.•••
Subject: The Post-Bush Regime: A Prognosis
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7693
The Post-Bush Regime: A Prognosis
by Richard K. Moore
Global Research, December 27, 2007
Hey Richard,
Robert Bolman here in Eugene.....
I just finished reading the above referenced
piece and feel that your analysis is pretty spot
on. But I have a question about the very nature
of "conspiracy".
So many things that we in this circle may read or
write make it sound like there's a big conspiracy
to do all these bad things. That there are
sinister men behind closed doors making all kinds
of plans..... But that implies that those
conspiring against us are either extremely evil
people or astonishingly adept at talking
themselves into believing nonsense. I tend to
believe that it's the latter. I have a hard time
believing that even Dick Cheney wakes up in the
morning and looks at himself in the mirror and
says, "Gee, I sure am a bad person. In fact,
today I'm going to try to become even more bad."
Yet I do believe that even the most brilliant
people are capable of enthusiastically believing
utter nonsense. Look at Hitler. He was a pretty
smart guy.
But another thing to consider in how these
"conspiracies" manage to happen is to consider
the very nature of "conspiracy". Is it possible
that what we pass off as bad people making
sinister plans resulting in a "conspiracy" is
actually a much more amorphous, loose-knit
phenomenon? Is it possible that various
different players in in the global scene can all
make and implement their various decisions and
that no single decision is THAT sinister, but
when the sum total of all the various decisions
comes together, the end result is very sinister
indeed? If we could articulate a way that that
could happen, it would make our conspiracy
theories much more plausible to the skeptical.
Interested in your thoughts,
Rob
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Hi Rob,
My thoughts you shall have.
No, it is not possible that it's an amorphous
process. It is what it is; it is not possible for
it to be something else at the same time.
This has nothing to do with theories of any kind,
conspiracy or otherwise. The simple fact is that
the USA operates just like a corporation, with
control firmly in the hands of the Board of
Directors. The Board of Directors in this case
are the same as the Board of Directors of the
Federal Reserve Bank of New York. And yes, they
are sinister men who meet behind closed doors and
make all kinds of plans. Anyone who doesn't know
this needs to do a little research. It doesn't
take much. You might start by watching "The
Money Masters":
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936
And no, this does not imply that "those
conspiring against us are either extremely evil
people or astonishingly adept at talking
themselves into believing nonsense". It simply
implies that their self-interest is different
than ours, and they don't give a damn about us. I
call that evil, but they think of it as the
natural law of the jungle - if they weren't on
top someone else would be. The policies they
pursue are not nonsense at all, they just aren't
good for humanity. They make lots of sense to
those who benefit.
rkm
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From: "Jeff Keiffer" <>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:05:20 -0500
Subject: Re: What to expect from the next US Administration
http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1368&batch=16&lists=cyberjournal
Hi Richard,
Always good to read your posts; informative as always.
While there is much to be concerned with in the
US I have also noticed a small but growing
people's movement to make changes for the better
here in the US. I have been a member to several
organizations with a green agenda and while the
federal government continues to do the bidding of
the big polluting corporations that only care
about their bottom lines; many people have
organized to make themselves and their local
communities greener. Local governments have begun
offering incentives to people to buy hybrids,
solar panels, more energy efficient appliances,
etc. I have also seen a green movement in the
auto industry where smaller car companies are
flaunting the powers that be and making fully
electric cars (see Tesla or Aptera). I believe
this movement will only grow because many
Americans are concerned and waking up to the fact
that we do need to wean ourselves off foreign oil
and I have begun to notice that many Americans
are beginning to turn to the Internet for their
information. There is also a strong populist
movement supporting candidates running for
president like Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul and
while the mainstream media either makes fun of
them or ignores them completely they are getting
their word out and people are taking notice.
There is always the fear of another 9/11 attack
and Bush declaring himself dictator and that
leave me to wonder how many Americans would be
willing to stand up and fight their own
government. I believe many would stand up and
fight and there are even states that would
declare their independence from the US (Vermont,
possibly California) and that would eventually
lead to another civil war (though in my mind it
would be a revolutionary war to free ourselves
from another King George).
There are signs of change but I can only hope
that it continues and that Americans continue to
awaken to what is really going on in their
country.
Peace,
Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
You are quite right to point to all the people
who are 'making changes for the better' - but
you're underestimating them! I'd say it is a
MASS movement, not a 'small but growing'
movement. Besides all the things people do as
individuals, there are literally thousands of
activist groups devoted to such changes.
Particularly after Gore's film, everyone and
their brother seems to be change conscious.
We can take great hope and comfort in this mass
support that exists for change. HOWEVER, we must
be careful not to fool ourselves about whether or
not that support and energy is actually
accomplishing anything as yet. The mass
consciousness around change is POTENTIALLY
powerful, but solar panels, hybrid cars,
minimizing your travel, and efficient appliances
do nothing whatever to move us toward
sustainability. Such things amount to throwing
the deck chairs off the Titanic, in the hope that
will lighten the ship and keep it from sinking.
The problem is not the passengers or the
furniture, the problem is the ship itself - the
infrastructures of our societies. They have hit
an iceberg - the finiteness of the Earth - and we
are beginning to sink.
It is very important to understand that the
mission of Gore and his ilk has nothing whatever
to do with responding to the crises that face us,
quite the opposite. What they are doing, and
quite successfully, is co-opting all that 'change
energy', and channeling it in such a way as to
enable the continuance of 'business as usual', to
enable the destructive engines of our
growth-driven industrial society to continue
purring along. Hybrid cars, for example, are no
help whatsoever; we need to transform our
transport systems from cars and trucks to modern,
efficient, rail systems. We need similar radical
transformations in every one of our
infrastructures and production methods. Nothing
less will reverse our relentless drive toward
collapse. Gore and his ilk understand this very
well.
There will be no civil war, there will be no
secessions, and there will be no Presidents like
Ron Paul. Those, I'm sorry to say, are idle
fantasies.
optimism + realism,
rkm
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From: •••@••.•••
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:55:18 EST
Subject: Re: What to expect from the next US Administration
To: •••@••.•••
Hi Richard,
rkm: <<In this context, the net consequence of a major biofuel agenda comes
down to intentional genocide. In order to provide marginally more
fuel to the over-consuming industrialized nations, untold millions
will starve in the third world, in addition to those untold millions
that are already starving. The marginal energy gain is so small by
comparison, that we must accept that the biofuels agenda is PRIMARILY
about genocide. >>
What about the motivation derived from various
corporations making lots of money from biofuels?
Bill
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Hi Bill,
Let's not confuse the cart with the horse. Of
course investors will jump into any available
market, just as ants will swarm to honey. The
ultimate perpetrator of the swarming is the one
who placed the honey, the ants are purely
reactive. The market for biofuels is being
created by government action, and by the
manipulation of oil prices, and the only reliable
way to judge the motivation of the men behind the
curtain is by the long range implications of
their actions.
rkm
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From: "Claudia Rice" <>
To: "rkm" <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: post-xmas dialog...
http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1369
Hi Richard:
check out Power versus Liberty: Madison, Hamilton, Wilson, and Jefferson
by James H. Read
<http://www.upress.virginia.edu/books/read.html>
for an interesting discussion of our Founders
differing views.
I don't know that we'll ever get power out of the
equation but if we can figure out how to be self
reliant and cooperative adults with similar
children, we'll probably have an advantage to
pass along to those who come after. It's ironic
that the cooperative skills we used to become
such a widespread species are now so hard to come
by.
Claudia
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Hi Claudia,
Thanks for the Founding Fathers link.
Unfortunately, the Hamiltonian wing prevailed.
No Claudia, we do not need to wait a generation
to begin cooperating. We are all quite capable of
cooperating. If you want to measure how good we
are at cooperating, look at how people behave
within a progressive corporation like Apple or
Microsoft. I worked at Apple for over five years,
and the spirit of cooperation was amazing, among
individuals and among teams. We did not go
through any 'cooperation training', we simply
found ourselves in an environment where
cooperation was encouraged, and where the
corporate culture was more about 'making the
company a winner' than it was about 'moving up
the ladder'.
We have not lost the skills, we simply have very
little opportunity, or perceived need, to
exercise them in our non-work life. One of the
problems of the capitalist system is that gives
us everything we need! We don't need to carpool,
because we can all afford a car. We don't need to
agree on what to watch on TV, because we each
have our own TV in our room. We don't need to
build a school together, because the government
gives us one. We don't need to cook a meal
together, or even eat together, because we can
each pop something the the microwave when we're
hungry. In an instant-gratification society, why
bother with cooperating?
What we need to do is to put our cooperative
skills to use. We need to launch collaborative
initiatives. More and more I'm convinced that it
doesn't particularly matter what the objective of
an initiative might be, what matters is the
dialog processes, and decision-making processes,
that are used in the endeavor. If 'wise
processes' are used, that take into account
everyone's ideas and concerns, then the endeavor
will naturally evolve toward enlightened
objectives, regardless of what brought the people
together in the first place.
Unfortunately, most of our popular initiatives
have no dialog awareness whatsoever. Instead of
evolving they remain statically oriented around
some pre-determined agenda and way of operating.
I'm working with one organization that is typical
of many. They have a reasonably promising agenda,
and a fairly large group of members spread
worldwide. What do they do with those members?
They send them newsletters and ask them for
donations. That's about it. They might survey
them about policy, but they don't try to engage
them in creative dialog about moving the
organization forward more effectively. I'm
working with them now to organize a 'wise dialog'
conference, involving a cross section of their
membership.
cheers,
rkm
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Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:33:41 +0100
From: Earl <>
To: •••@••.•••
Subject: Re: post-xmas dialog...
Hi Richard,
It's been some time since I last contacted you,
but I am still a faithful reader.
Congratulations on being published on Global
Research, and then given the honor of 'Best
Article of the Year'. Another favorite resource
of mine.
Keep on doing the wonderful work.
Best wishes for the New Year and the future,
Earl Duthler
Amsterdam
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Thanks Earl :-)
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From: "John Lowry" <>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: post-xmas dialog...
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 18:59:58 -0800
rkm >...delegating power does not work as a formula
for democracy.
Delegating power, or "authority," or
"responsibility," cannot be done. Each of these
must be assumed or taken, hopefully with the
consent of those affected, but force works too,
for a while.
Your new mission sounds like a management
consultants' pitch, like MacKensey (sp?).
Appropriate to the time of course....
Star well,
John
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Hi John,
You first comment mystifies me. I have no idea what you're trying to say. :-(
Well, yes, the new mission is similar to that of
a management consultant or a facilitator. All of
us seek to increase the effectiveness of groups
through the use of better process and
communications. In my case, however, the services
are free and I'm aiming to empower the people
involved, more than the organization they belong
to.
rkm
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Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:55:34 EST
To: •••@••.•••
From: •••@••.•••
Subject: Re: post-xmas dialog...
Congrats!
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Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:41:23 -0500
Subject: Re: dialog + new website
From: Greg Coleridge <>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Richard,
A truly excellent piece! Very succinct.
Might I recommend a couple of articles examining the myth of democracy and
ways to democratize the Constitution.
The U.S. Constitution: Pull the Curtain
First of two articles on the U.S. Constitution
Winter 2007
By What Authority, published by the Program on Corporations, Law & Democracy
(POCLAD)
http://www.poclad.org/bwa/Winter07.htm
A U.S. Constitution with DEMOCRACY IN MIND
Second of two articles on the U.S. Constitution
By What Authority, published by the Program on Corporations, Law & Democracy
[POCLAD]
Spring, 2007
http://www.poclad.org/bwa/Spring07.htm
Cheers,
Greg Coleridge
Director
Economic Justice & Empowerment Program
Northeast Ohio American Friends Service Committee
[a Quaker social action organization]
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To: <•••@••.•••>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:52:05 -0600
From: "Howard Switzer" <>
Subject: Re: * rkm issues a New Year's Challenge *
http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1370
Richard,
thank you for the work...
I've been talking to my colleges in the Green
Party, I'm a delegate from TN on the National
Council, for some time now about such an
intervention. The GP is divided and is held
completely at bay with internal conflict over the
large state small state representation issue and
over the fact that the party voted to support one
of its own instead of Ralph Nader in the 2004
election. Most of the GP seems pretty good but
there is a divisive faction that is raising hell
all the time and the elected leadership hasn't
been able to handle it very well and so far has
ignored my suggestions for a facilitated effort
to get the party unified so it can move on. It
may be that the minority faction refuses all
mediation. But ever since I read your book,
Richard, and the Facilitators Manual, I have been
talking about this. We need to do something that
will make us smarter. The vision you have about
how this might spread community to community is
why I encourage GP members at the local level to
become conveners in their communities etc etc.
But they've got to all get on the same page first
it seems to me and learn to respect one another.
Decentralizing the economy is one of the 10 key
planks in their platform but the minority faction
seems to want to be top down, one right way.
....I don't know, maybe its a COINTELPRO
operation.
Howard Switzer, Architect
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Hi Howard,
Congratulations! You are the only person who
responded to my challenge! I was quite surprised
at that. I guess no one else has any problems.
Here's my response to your situation. I wouldn't
worry about the Green Party as such. Parties are
a bad idea; they're divisive. And I wouldn't
focus on convening Wisdom Councils. That turns
out to be a very slow-moving process. What I
would suggest is to gather together a group of
Greens, in a facilitated session, and have
everyone bring up their concerns about the Green
Party. Let that lead where it will lead. You
won't be the only one with doubts and with ideas.
imho,
rkm
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From: "JOHN ADDYSON" <>
To: •••@••.•••
Subject: Thanks from John Addyson
Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2008 13:49:19 -0500
Hello Richard,
Thank you for your kind response.
Consider me a slow learner, but the challenges
that you have set forth make sense. After much
soul searching I, too, have come to the
conclusion that if meaningful change is to come,
it must start at the the local level. Humankind
has survived through the centuries living in this
very manner: families meld into tribes, tribes
meld into confederations, and this understandably
works best when members of the community realize
that everyone's survival depends upon the mutual
cooperation of all the members, and not just an
unfortunate few. But I am stating the obvious.
You are correct in saying that the internet
scares the hell out of the puppet masters who
manipulate the events that shape our world. More
and more of us in the trenches are beginning to
realize this important fact. In this era of
on-line communication, I sense that we have now
gone past what I call the Identification Phase.
The Identification Phase, in my estimation,
lasted for about 10-years (say, 1995 to 2005).
It consisted of folks from all walks of life
sharing their stories, comparing notes, and
formulating an understanding of how power, money,
and information, was used to benefit the few,
while oppressing the many. This was a crucial
time, not to mention a lengthy process. In one
respect, many of us were amateur sleuths, trying
to piece together a crime scene from sketchy--and
often conflicting--pieces of information. As we
know so well, an accomplished criminal is a
master at covering his tracks; indeed, in the
commission of a crime mistakes are made, but when
the criminal controls the police department and
the judicial system, the task of bringing the
truth to light of day is darn near impossible.
In my view, you have been instrumental in piecing
together an accurate picture of how this
ingenious system of power and control works.
I am probably not alone in saying this, but when
my wake up call came in 2003, and when I
discovered that our key political, religious, and
financial leaders were nothing more than "made"
members of a sophisticated criminal enterprise, I
grew depressed realizing that the fairy tales
impressed upon me from kindergarten on were
nothing more than bald-faced lies. I went
through all of those emotional passages that
Elizabeth Kubler Ross identified in his works on
death and dying. But I realized, however, that
lashing out at the system would accomplish very
little. I felt that creating a website that
hosted a series of negative rants and tirades
against the system would be, at best, preaching
to the choir, and merely adding to the despair
and hopelessness that many of us fee.
So the perplexing question that weighed heavily
upon my mind for the past several years was: "How
can I make a positive difference?" Believe me,
the answers did not come overnight, because it
took several years to formulate a fundamental
understanding of how I fit into this matrix of
domination and control.
Perhaps Occam's Razor holds true in addressing
these complex issues. The simplest
solution/answer may be the best approach; that
is, change must start with the individual. If
transformation is to work, pardon the pun, it
must be an inside job. In future
correspondences, I would like to share a couple
of small success stories with you in how we (my
family) have taken steps to circumvent the
matrix, and find more meaningful lives in the
process.
Lastly, I hope that my little sermonette does not
read like an overly emotional, sappy tome. But
as you have so eloquently written, the exchange
of meaningful dialog leads to self-discovery and
change.
Best wishes, Richard.
John Addyson
Pennsylvania, USA
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Hi John,
Thanks sharing your thoughts, and I look forward
to hearing of your success stories.
I agree that the transformation must start with
the individual. And the transformation that is
needed has to do with empowerment and action,
rather than with 'realizations' or
'enlightenment'. It has to do with not relying on
any government or organization - or anyone but
yourself - to be the agent of change. And when I
say 'agent of change' I am NOT talking about
changing your lifestyle. I'm talking about
getting out there and creating change in society.
cheers,
rkm
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:27:06 +0100
From: Hélène CONNOR
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: * rkm: Has capitalism passed its peak? *
http://cyberjournal.org/show_archives/?id=1371
Dear Richard,
Difficult to write an article on that topic that
would put "smiles on faces" as you say, but you
could try... as it ends in too pessimist a
manner. You usually give a glimpse of hope and it
is appreciated since we don't want to demobilize
our friends.
Brazil also has become too aware in building its
biofuel program (since 1973) to let itself go and
become enslaved to such a trade. At least I think
so
Thank you for all your research and work which we
are in the habit on spreading to our
international lists.
Have a fruitful and happy year 2008!
Helene
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Hi Helene,
Why would I want to put smiles on people's faces?
Demobilization is what most people need most, to
re-evaluate what they're about. If people were
doing the right things we wouldn't be in this
mess.
If Brazil is so savvy, why did Lulu sign a major deal to grow biofuels?
smile when there's something to smile about :-)
rkm
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From: HTomHOK
Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:16:07 EST
Subject: Re: * rkm: Has capitalism passed its peak? *
To: •••@••.•••
X-Virus-Status: Clean
Richard, I believe that knowledge of the past is
essential to understanding the present. Sometime
ago I ran onto a letter from Keynes to Roosevelt
that sheds a lot of light on the present: "An
Open Letter to President Roosevelt".
<http://newdeal.feri.org/misc/keynes2.htm>
The letter was written early during the Great
Depression, but apparently was mostly ignored by
Roosevelt for several years, although I believe
Keynes and Roosevelt must have communicated
during the interim. From this letter I have
reasoned the cause of the depression as being the
introduction of too many machines to replace
workers, resulting in massive unemployment.
Keynes' suggested solution to unemployment seems
to bear this out.
One of the more interesting aspects of the letter
is the desire of Keynes, and likely Roosevelt, to
find a way out of the depression leaving the
existing social system, capitalism, intact. As
Keynes points out, the failure to do this would
have likely resulted in capitalism being replaced
by another economic system. It is my assumption
that placing this concern in the first paragraph
indicates it as being of paramount importance to
both Keynes and Roosevelt.
It is later in the letter that Keynes explains
the "pump-priming" justified by war theory, i.e.
the start of the military-industrial complex. If
you will recall, in 1948 the economy started down
hill again and McCarthy, a kook drunkard, started
his communist fear mongering that led to the cold
war. The cold war was just as effective as a
shooting war in justifying huge deficits. It
provided millions of jobs producing non-consumer
goods, and served as a life support for
capitalism while also creating the fear required
to control the Russian people.
You may already have the Keynes letter and have
made your own analysis of it, but I believe it is
worth review at this particular time.
Tom
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Hi Tom,
Thanks for sharing your research & thinking.
Certainly the preservation of the system, and
particularly the primacy of banks, was foremost
in Roosevelt's mind. He comes from an old banking
family. Keynes was an idealist, a quite different
kettle of fish.
If the Depression had been caused by too many
machines it never would have ended. The level of
industrial automation has only increased since
then. The Depression was intentionally created by
the Federal Reserve, as a way of increasing its
control over the economy, and of enriching its
private owners by enabling them to buy up assets
at bargain prices.
The postwar boom, that lasted into the sixties,
was not primarily about a war economy, that
didn't come until the Vietnam build-up. The
postwar boom was about industrial exports, and
about investments and developments in the Global
South ('Free World'). The purpose of the Cold War
rhetoric was to fool the American People into
interpreting US imperialism as being a 'defense
against a threat', ie communism. The Communist
Threat has now been replaced by the Muslim
Threat, and again it is a made-up enemy to
distract from imperialism.
imho,
rkm
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From: •••@••.•••
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:14:00 EST
Subject: Anti-Empire Report, January 13, 2008
Anti-Empire Report, January 13, 2008
<http://killinghope.org/aer53.htm>
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To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••>
From: Andrea Lea <>
Subject: Fwd: NAACP President: Ron Paul Is Not A Racist - Paul being smeared
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 22:38:57 -0500
Hi Richard,
You need to say more about Ron Paul rather than
the other candidates, with the possible exception
of Dennis Kucinich (who can't make the difference
that Ron Paul can) or Cynthia McKinney, the
former Congresswoman from Georgia who told the
truth when do one else would speak up. Of course,
it cost her dearly but I understand she is the
latest addition to the Presidential race.
A
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Hi Andrea,
My interest in the election is strictly limited
to interpreting what it means. I have no interest
in influencing anyone's votes, as the whole
political process is a waste of time. I have
posted some things to newslog about Ron Paul, as
examples of how the system is rigged.
rkm
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From: BEGoodman
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2008 12:18:34 EST
Subject: Fwd: Top Censored News Stories of 2007
as Judged by Respected University Rese...
This is a DYNAMITE site for all the stories NOT published by the media.
Pick and choose which ones interest you most and cut them out, in full.
But my suggestion is to forward ALL of this to as
many as you possibly can so that the suppressed
news will no longer be hidden.
Love and Peace,
Evelyn
<http://www.WantToKnow.info/080117mediacensorship>
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