Re: Beware the Liberal War On Terror


Richard Moore

From: Evelyn
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:56:56 EDT
Subject: Re: Beware the Liberal War On Terror
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O.K.  Now I am really confused.

You mix the good guys in with the bad guys, and where do we go
from here? I agree with your premise that the "war on terror"
is as phoney as a three dollar bill, but we do want to get rid
of the Bush administration.

Are you saying that the Democrats are part of the
orchestration of the perpetuation of the "War on Terror"?

So, how do we break the cycle?  Who would you choose to elect
now?  If not Kerry, who is the obvious frontrunner, then, who?
 Nader?  At the moment, he is just the "spoiler". Of course,
you and I know that this war on terror is phoney, but how do
you sell that to the American people and the world?

Do you suppose that it will ever come out that this
administration caused the 9-11 debacle? Will people ever
accept that?

So, what is the answer, now that you have stated the problem?

I am ready to just plain give up.

I don't have that many years left, and I have neglected my
family to spend time trying to open people's eyes----to the
voting fraud, and to the fraud of 9-11, and maybe it is time
to throw up my hands and get on with my own personal life.


Incidentally, have you seen or heard about Michael Moore's
Fahrenheit 9-11?  It is making ripples, to say the least.

"nuff for now.


Dear Evelyn

Many thanks for your excellent questions!  You have been
paying attention!  My postings are never random selections,
but are attempts to get us all to re-think our ideas and
question our assumptions. 

Let me respond to your concerns in reverse order. Yes I've
read many reviews of Fahrenheit 9-11. The ones that impressed
me the most are the reports from America's conservative
heartland, where audiences have been transformed. One woman in
Wal-Mart land got up at the end and said, "Let's have a
meeting!". Other such audiences have been difficult to clear
from the theater because everyone wanted to stay and talk
about what they had seen. Michael has pioneered a whole new
paradigm of public awakening. His combination of boldness,
accuracy, and lack of pretension gives him a special
ability to reach hearts. God bless him.

You say, "I am ready to just plain give up." That is indeed a
place of discouragement, but it also a place that can give
birth to new insights and initiatives--it can be a creative

It isn't necessary for everyone to accept the truth of 9/11.
For those who are prepared to accept it, that can be an
important radicalizing turning point for them. For others,
there may be other turning points, perhaps based on an
acknowledgement of environmental collapse, or whatever.
Opening eyes to the truth--expanding awareness--is always a
help, directly or indirectly.

I do think voting makes a difference--if Bush got a landslide
that would give legitimacy to extreme policies that a Kerry
landslide would discourage. Those aren't identical outcomes.
But at the same time, I believe we need to acknowledge that a
Kerry election will do nothing to change the disastrous course
civilization is following--it might slow it down a bit, but
that's all. As long as Wall Street rules the economy,
political leaders have very little latitude. And Kerry is
certainly not talking about fundamental economic reforms--he
is in no way an FDR.

Personally, I make the choice not to send in an absentee
ballot. I'd rather protest the charade of democracy than
exercise my little difference against Bush. But I respect
those whose logic pushes them into electoral seriousness. And
I must admit to inconsistency: I do vote here in Ireland
because it seems more real in a smaller society. But I must
admit the system is fundamentally the same or even worse
here--all control is centralized in Dublin, including the
police force.

Whatever our choice with respect to election participation, I
think we need to be thinking about how to change the whole
system and achieve real democracy. Just because the problem is
formidable does not mean it's not worth working on. If you
assume there is no possible way, then that is one way of 'just
plain giving up'.  But why should we assume that?

The Democrats have definitely been part of the orchestration
of the War on Terror. To their credit, many of them were
compelled by the emotion of 9/11 to follow on cue from the
White House, regardless of their possible private misgivings.
But as the Kerry campaign typifies, there has been no
significant attempt to counter the Patriot Act or propose its
repudiation. The most hopeful thing we got was from the recent
Supreme Court decision, and as several of you pointed out,
there is a huge dark lining on that silver cloud--'enemy
combatants' (that could be any of us) are still vulnerable to
arbitrary detention, ie., the equivalent of concentration
camps. Furthermore, there was nothing in the decision to
compel the CIA to reveal its many secret prisons and torture
centers, or to bring them into any kind of compliance.

You feel that I "mix the good guys in with the bad guys". I
see it this way: we need to acknowledge that the good cop and
the bad cop are conspiring to exploit us. We might still thank
the good cop for a cigarette, ie. vote for him, but we needn't
be taken in and belive he's really out to help us.

thanks again,