-------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lynette Watters" To: <•••@••.•••> Subject: RE: some thoughts Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 21:43:16 +1100 Hello Richard Please don't feel disappointed by the lack of feedback. I would think that the lack of it means that what you have posted is quite good in most people's opinions! I personally am looking forward to the completion and publication of your book. ---------- Dear Lynette, Thanks for your note. Perhaps you're right, that I can take the 'silent majority' as a good sign. Nonetheless, I would welcome some discussion of the ideas about how a harmonization movement might develop, and how a decentralized society might operate. Lots of folks would see that stuff as being out in la-la land. I had to go out on some speculative limbs in developing that material, and I wasn't expecting everyone to find them that convincing. When I get a PDF version of the whole text ready for review, then I'll be glad some folks have reserved some of their critique energy. Feedback will probably be easier and more useful in the context of a complete work. thanks again, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 21:59:39 -0800 (PST) From: Leo Klausmann Subject: Re: rkm: some thoughts To: •••@••.••• richard, your analysis of the implications of the 911 plan match mine exactly. Two reasons why most people who do not believe the official fabrication won't realize what this implies are that many never learned to reason for themselves and also that such a belief would destroy all sense of loyalty and pride in the usa. Its done that for me but I am young enough to roll with the blow. As for tuesday, I doubt there'll be a coup cuz of our dear friend Diebold. Any non bush vote will be altered as needed. ---------------- Dear Leo, The coup of which I speak would be a counter-coup against Bush. Bush already accomplished his coup four years ago. If he steals this election too, and everyone is aware of it, we might see a 'friendly' military coup aimed at restoring democracy, exposing the truths of 9/11 & Iraq, etc. Probably not the most likely possible future, but not impossible either. Another trigger for such a counter-coup might be a war with Iran that threatens to escalate. 'Reasoning for oneself' seems to be one of the scarcest commodities in our culture. Everyone can do it if they're presented with a defined problem, like in a university exam. Or people can follow someone else's reasoning, as they do when they read Michael Moore or a popular science book. The whole culture encourages a 'consumerist' attitude toward thinking, but the 'education' system is obviously the major culprit. It tells us that 'truth' is 'out there', and our job is to drink down as much of it as we can consume. The only place we're asked to think for ourselves is when we write essays in English class, and then the ideas aren't to be taken too seriously, it's their expression that counts. History, economics, and politics are presented in an intentionally boring way so that people will lose interest, and write them off as being too complex to worry about. And then there's the whole mystique of 'expertise'. We are taught that the world is so complex that it can only be understood in bits, one field of expertise for each bit. How dare any of us try to think about the whole gestalt! What hubris! Perhaps the greatest contribution of Michael Moore is that he doesn't look like an expert, he looks like one of us. And there he is on camera, asking questions, thinking for himself out loud, and getting to the bottom of things. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 13:46:10 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Wynn Subject: Re: rkm: some thoughts To: •••@••.••• Hello Richard: My reply will be short but I just want to tell you that I have been reading most of you have written and that I find that material worthy of serious considerations. You have done a great job of summarizing the important facts needed for a better understanding of the world we are currently living in. I wish you the best of luck I hope that such a book will be widely read all over the world and I also hope that the younger people will show an interest as the knowledge potentially gained for your book could shape their vision and thus create a better future for humanity. Thank you If you ever come to Japan, please let me know, we could discuss the effect of Asia on the world as we know it as well as on our stomachs! Thank you and best of luck. Steven, Japan ---------- Dear Steven, Thanks for your encouraging words. I also hope the book gets wide circulation. It will be on Amazon, and available to bookstores, but I don't expect promotional help from the publisher I'll be using. We'll need to do some kind of online promotion. Perhaps we could populate Amazon with links to the book from related popular books (like Michael Moore's), "If you liked this book, then you'll also want to read...". And hopefully some folks would write some tantalizing reviews and put them on Amazon. Even if the book doesn't sell well at first, it might still accomplish it's primary objective. That objective, as you might guess, is to encourage the emergence of some kind of harmonization movement, hopefully focused around community empowerment. Such a movement might not be along the same lines I've suggested in the material, but I have a feeling that if any kind of harmonization movement gets started, the natural dynamics of the process will guide the movement in an appropriate direction. In terms of this primary objective, the main target audience would be activists and the facilitator / co-intelligence community, in the hopes of inspiring some critical mass of them to experiment with the kinds of initiatives I've described. If no such movement gets started, then the book has failed in its mission. Hopefully it would still be useful as a red pill, vis a vis the Matrix. If a movement does get started, presumably partly catalyzed by the book, then I believe the movement and the book would become mutually self-promoting. If the book were to be perceived as a kind of guidebook for the movement, then the growth of the movement would spark interest in the book, and the book would at the same time serve as promotional material for the movement. If the book caught on as a trendy thing to read, then that could be very beneficial to the expansion of the movement. I consider the current title to be tentative. It's descriptive but not very appealing. In light of the previous paragraph, perhaps some title with 'guidebook' in it would be appropriate, something like "Global Transformation - A Guidebook". Or perhaps, "Harmonization and Global Transformation--a Users Guide". I've also considered, "A Message to We the People". Ideas welcome. Japan? Seems very far away. Perhaps someday. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- From: Tony Oí Reilly To: •••@••.••• Subject: Re: rkm: some thoughts Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:08:09 +0000 Richard, How are you, hope all is well? Your days as a movie star over for now? Just got to read the latest chapter once, yesterday, and hoping to go over it again tomorrow. Enjoyed it. Maybe one reason you aren't getting massive responses is that the chapters are well put together, and people need more time to study them before offering replies etc. I suppose we all want to have our say, and the fact that your 'say' is so well put together... i for one am merely left applauding your efforts - I wouldn't dream of trying to 'improve' your efforts. A running theme of the book is that 'we the people' have to get involved and fix this world for ourselves. Those of us that know you know that you are not claiming in any way to have the final solution to our problems, so we do not feel the need to 'argue' with you. Take the lack of feedback as a good sign... we are with you. Personally, I am so looking forward to the completion of the book, seeing it in print, and buying a few copies to show/ send to other people. You are the right person at the right time to write this book - you've absorbed all the feedback you've received down the years, and it shows in your work. Hope you didn't suffer too much in the floods in Wexford last week. Hope Kerry wins the election. I'm so wearied and pained by Bush and the deadly neocon nutters that a new liar on the block would be refreshing. My dream would be that people might see after four years of Kerry that both parties are the same really.... and more people might become interested in real democracy. Wishful thinking I suppose. Anyway, the election is a distraction really, to the challenge of making a new world. I have been inspired by the Harmonization chapters to again look at trying to start a local community group in Carrigaline. It might happen soon. I think I started thinking this way a year ago, but now I know more ... I am better prepared. Keep up the brilliant work and take care, If there was anything I could do to help with the book, I'd be glad to pay a visit to Wexford in a few weeks time, but I'm no editor myself........! Tony, Cork. -------- Tony, As usual, nice to hear from you. Your comments make good sense. I'll quit worrying about feedback and keep my nose to the grindstone. The problem with waiting for 'four years of Kerry' is that the public seems to have no memory. They only remember what was on Fox the previous day. The flood only reached the stoop, but I had to don my welly's to get out the door. 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