reader dialog – to Jan 29

2007-01-29

Richard Moore

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Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 13:48:53 -0800
From: Bo Filter <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: End of year report: The State of the World
To: •••@••.•••

Hi Richard,

Seasons greetings and thank you for your years-end report. I think 
its the best synopsis I've seen so far. I agree that a Great 
Awakening needs to emerge in the west. I have been extolling since 
about 1980 (with very little success) the idea of a bloodless 
de-imperialization that begins with an authentic democratization of 
the media. A popular movement of freeing the press, as accorded by 
the first amendment, could derail the 1927 FCC act that gave 
corporations privileged access and control of the nations media. When 
the people get access to the press, the truth gets out. The genie 
comes out of the bottle and the transformation begins; witness 
Venezuela. More than one founding father of the US Constitution 
warned that a free press was a precondition for democracy; thus came 
the impetus for the first amendment.  Why don't we respond to their 
wisdom and make it happen.
Keep up your valuable analysis,

Bo
Victoria, BC

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Hi Bo,

I suppose you are thinking in terms of seeing 'real information' on 
TV and mainstream newspapers. That could only happen after a major 
and successful confrontation with the powers that be. How can we do 
that, while the media is still under their control? It seems to me 
that if we find away to have such a success, we should have a broader 
agenda than just the media.

I would also note that the Internet serves as an ideal 'free press', 
accessible on everyone's desktop. In what ways does this not provide 
the democratization of media that you seek?

rkm

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From: Andrea Lea <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: BerkShares: Bringing Business Back to the Community
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 09:03:25 -0500
To: •••@••.•••

We appreciate very much your perspective and writings, Richard. Joy 
and blessings in the New Year.
Andrea

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From: "Brian Hill" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: BerkShares: Bringing Business Back to the Community
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 08:02:53 -0800
Organization: Institute  for Cultural Ecology

There are many of these going on in the US and other countries, so I 
feel certain they are vanguards for what is to come.

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From: "Brian Hill" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: AN EXPERIMENTAL FRAMEWORK FOR COMMUNITY DEMOCRACY (1.1)
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 09:10:48 -0800
Organization: Institute  for Cultural Ecology

There is a small town in Ecuador - the name escapes me now, but I 
will try to dig it up - where the indigenous people use computers to 
directly run the town.  All town business is on the computers for the 
citizens to access and participate in.  The town has support from 
European govs who support direct democracy and from Cuba.  And the 
town is pretty wealthy.

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please do 'dig it up'.

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Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 19:05:25 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)
From: "marguerite hampton" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: AN EXPERIMENTAL FRAMEWORK FOR COMMUNITY DEMOCRACY (1.1)

  Hi Richard and Happy New Year.

I really do want to thank you for your tireless efforts in attempting 
to make this world a better place, even though I disagree with you at 
times.

One of the problems I have with the types of groups you are 
recommending here is that people in general are looking out for their 
own interests most of the time; therefore, earth concerns come in 
last.  So, while we may have democracy" it is still "mob rule" by 
whomever wins in the human realm and the Hell with the Earth....<snip>

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hi eco,

I wonder why you are so pessimistic about 'people in general'. I've 
seen many reports of polls, for example, where a large majority of 
'ordinary people' want strong environmental controls and limits on 
corporate power. Those sentiments do not find voice in the current 
political system, but that is not the fault of 'people in general'.

curious,
rkm

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From: "h4howard" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: democracy
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 15:48:39 -0600

         rkm> There are many definitions of 'democracy', most of them
         based on elections and representation. This paper envisions
         a direct form of democracy, in which the people of a
         community decide together, on an inclusive basis, the major
         policies and programs of their community.

Thank you for your work toward democracy.

I often like to tell people that the Europeans did not bring 
democracy to the New World, they discovered democracy in the New 
World in the form of the Haudenesaunee Confederacy who had been 
organized under the Great Law of Peace for 200 years before Columbus 
landed.  Native peoples don't like voting because they don't like 
anyone being a looser, consensus through much dialogue was the way.

Howard Switzer

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Hi Howard,

Yes, the Europeans discovered it and found a way to borrow some of 
the mechanisms while leaving democracy out. :-(

thanks,
richard

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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 08:27:54 -0600
From: Catherine Austin Fitts <•••@••.•••>
To:  •••@••.•••
Subject: Re: Austin Fitts: Review of Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth

Richard:

Thanks for forwarding this out to your list. The article continues to 
percolate and pop up -- lots of people want to participate in 
authentic conversations such as you are leading.

Keep it up!

Catherine

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Hi Catherine,

I see Gore as an agent of co-option who needs to be widely exposed as 
such. Thanks for your excellent contribution to that effort. It will 
be real defeat for us all if people get hoodwinked into thinking the 
Democrats can or would 'restore democratic responsiveness'.

and thanks for your encouragement,
rkm

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From: "Sabine Kurjo McNeill" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: Austin Fitts: Review of Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 10:57:27 -0000

Dear Richard

Many thanks for this! I had seen and lost it and now want to put it 
on my latest blog  - <http://www.greencredit.org.uk/> Green Credit 
for Green Purposes

I look forward to your astute analysis and comments and do wish you 
more and more power for your elbows!

Remarkable your writings and achievements!!!

S

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From: M Baker <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: "Science and the Akashic Field" - book report
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:59:54 -0800
To: •••@••.•••

Your final sentence is absolutely the best yet. Fabulous!

Have forwarded this essay widely. Thanks for posting.

On a semi-similar trajectory, the DVD "Conscious Acts of Creation: 
The emergence of a new physics" by Dr. Wm A. Tiller, Stanford 
University Professor Emeritus might be fun to descent into, if you 
haven't already.

Best regards while adventuring,
Myan Baker
Bolinas, CA

rkm wrote:
         Just as we like to descend into a DVD, and 'experience' the
         drama, excitement, and catharsis of a staged story, so our
         'consciousness' likes to have experiences, rather than just
         sit there in the universe knowing everything without
         adventure or constraints.

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Thanks Myan for the reference - rkm

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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:43:01 -0800
From: Janet Hicks <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: "Science and the Akashic Field" - book report
To: •••@••.•••

Thanks, Richard. I read Lazlo's book and love it!
Great post!!
all the best, Janet

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From: "Philip Snow" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: "Science and the Akashic Field" - book report
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:43:35 -0000

"There must be forces we don't know about, conveyed by some medium we 
don't know about, to explain the universe we observe."

YOU AINT KIDDING!?

But you have "No Excuse" as I keep telling you from the Bible [Romans 
1 v 20 etc]

Do wake up!

Philip
"The Design & Origin of Birds", DayOne Books, 2006.
"Light & Flight - Hebridean Wildlife & Landscape Sketchbook",
Brown & Whittaker, Mull, 12/06.
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/philipsnowba
http://hebrideansketchbook.org.uk

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I'm trying to wake up, but the universe is not done with me yet. ;-)

rkm

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From: "Stephanie McDowall" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: "Science and the Akashic Field" - book report
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:05:04 -0800

I loved this Richard and have sent it out to those I know will be 
very interested.

Stephanie, Nanaimo.

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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:30:28 +1300
From: "Ayran Dreger" <•••@••.•••>
To: "Richard Moore quaylago" <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: "Science and the Akashic Field" - book report [and Sri 
Aurobindo and the Course in Miracles]

Thank you, Richard ! -- for making my day, my month, my year, my 
decade !  -- and being a perceived friend in this my "lifetime 
experience" on this "plane" !!

`It is a joy, a pleasure, a deeply satisfying experience to 'sit back 
and read' your lines. Rather like listening to a favourite opera 
singer ( like Kiri Te Kanawa, in my case ).

What you report and describe here, in your usual simple clear and 
straightforward English, 'resonates' entirely with the way I've 
perceived myself/everything for pretty much as long as I can remember 
'thinking/feeling' about such things - and that's quite a while in my 
case.

A friend gave me the 'complete' text of the Course in Miracles 
recently, and I've been reading through it - a bit at a time, as I 
have energy for it. I've know about it for 25 years or more, skimmed 
through it before and always had extra respect for it - despite it's, 
for me, excessively convoluted English, 'Christian' bias, etc., etc. 
- because of its use by Marianne Williamson whom I admire, 
respect and appreciate greatly.  The reason I mention that 
'channelled' work, is that it has the same basis or bias or 
fundamental worldview as the theses of the authors you are writing 
about here.  It seems to me that Helen Schucman, in this case, 
'received' this info from the a-field and 'channelled' it on - in the 
language and tradition that she was raised in and used to.

My own simple - simplistic - way of expressing it has always been like this:

I/we are 'living' a 'dream'. At a 'deeper level' it's an 'illusion' - 
but while we're 'here', that 'dream' is very real to and for us. It 
constitutes our basic 'reality' and has 'rules' in it which 
operate very 'concretely'  - and can't just be avoided, evaded, or 
dismissed because we 'don't like them'.  Our 'dream' in this 'life' 
is governed by the 'three physical dimensions' and  'time' which have 
the rules of 'cause and effect'. It's in cinemascope and technicolour 
- for great 'entertainment' value ! That's it. Enjoy the show, and be 
ready to report back when you come home at the end of the outing.

It also recalls to mind, for me, Sri Aurobindo whose view was that 
the infinite, eternal, omnipotent and unchanging 'god' or 'source of 
all being' just got tired and bored with 'nothing happening' - and so 
split into uncountable if not 'infinite' parts in order to 'have 
experiences'. That then also meant that 'it' would have 'all 
possible' experiences - not just nice, pleasant, or 'good' ones'. 
Hence the universe and everything in it as we 'find' it. ( 'We' - 
welcome everyone, as Daring Donna would say - in fact create/d all 
that's here! And we can co-create and re-create it differently, in 
other ways, if 'we' so choose. )

Thanks again - with much love and big hugs from me.

Ayran 'down under'

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Hi Ayran,

       You wrote:
         I/we are 'living' a 'dream'. At a 'deeper level' it's an
         'illusion' - but while we're 'here', that 'dream' is very
         real to and for us. It constitutes our basic 'reality' and
         has 'rules' in it which operate very 'concretlly'  - and
         can't just be avoided, evaded, or dismissed because we
         'don't like them'.  Our 'dream' in this 'life' is governed
         by the 'three physical dimensions' and  'time' which have
         the rules of 'cause and effect'. It's in cinemascope and
         technicolour - for great 'entertainment' value ! That's it.
         Enjoy the show, and be ready to report back when you come
         home at the end of the outing.

Yes, that seems to sum up the human experience, at least at one 
level. It raises the question, however, as to what enlightenment is 
about. Why do some people, often considered the wisest among us, seek 
to escape from the illusion? What is the purpose of this yearning to 
reunite with our source? If we're here to watch the DVD, then why do 
we have a bee in our bonnet distracting us with 'higher things'? Why 
go on holiday and then worry about whether we should have stayed home?

I'm drawn here to the alleged words of Jesus, when he talked about 
wanting to create the kingdom of heaven on earth. What did he mean by 
that, if he said it, and assuming he was a sage? Certainly he was not 
talking about any return to an earthly throne by a wrathful Jehovah! 
More likely he was talking about achieving social harmony on the 
earthly plane. That would suggest that there is a long-range purpose 
to creation, something that the conscious universe wants to see 
happen, but does not want to, or cannot, create by fiat.

This dovetails with a classic question in theology, why are we free 
to sin? If we consider these two points together, I am led to a 
certain hypothesis. I'll start by suggesting that the conscious 
universe is conducting an experiment, wherein it is imbuing 
limited-consciousness beings with increasing power (myth of 
Prometheus), to see if they can learn to achieve both power and 
harmony. The industrial revolution (or nuclear technology, or 
biotechnology, or fire), one might say, is a 'test sent by God'.

On the other hand, it may not be an experiment but rather an 
evolutionary endeavor. That is, the conscious universe intends to 
succeed at creating a harmonious earthly society of semi-conscious, 
power-imbued beings, and it continues the process of evolution in 
order to 'get it right' eventually. Humans are simply the best effort 
so far.

The achievement of a harmonious society turns out to be my own 
political agenda, arrived at by entirely different considerations. 
The primary objective in such an endeavor has to do with enabling 
people to realize their inherent brotherhood. There is no reason 
whatsoever that we need to be at each other's throats, apart from the 
constraints placed on us by our political systems, which have come 
into existence by virtue of the ability of 'the few' to monopolize 
power, which has been enabled  by technology (Prometheus again).

Our  challenge, as semi-conscious beings sent here for a purpose, is 
to overcome divide-and-rule and find our common humanity. Can we do 
it? I'm not sure, it seems to be an open question. Conditioning runs 
deep.

There are people who talk about Indigo  children, and an impending 
'next stage' in human evolution. I've dismissed such sentiments out 
of hand, based on the presumed timeframe of genetic adaptations. But 
with Lazlo's observations on evolution, some reconsideration here may 
be in order. If there is a mechanism for rapid genetic adaptations in 
times of survival stress, as experiments suggest, this would seem be 
the right time in history for it to come into play.

btw> can you say more about what's in the Course on Miracles?

best wishes,
richard

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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:11:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Diana Skipworth <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: "Science and the Akashic Field" - book report
To: •••@••.•••

Dearest Richard,

Wonderful, wonderful!!

And here I thought I would go to my grave without Science aiding our 
understanding the Purpose of Life.  So exciting to hold hands with 
Science.

For myself, I met a Power source when I was a young girl about seven. 
In those days they did not have DCFS or telephone 9-11 to aid those 
in violent dysfunctional households like my own.  Ours was a 
poisonous place, filled with negative emotions heightened by abuse 
and neglect.

In those days, (early 1960's) my older sister would take me to the 
Addison Bible Church with her on Sundays.  I remember sitting in the 
basement of the church, the backs of my legs cold from the steel 
folding chair, my feet dangling down.  Remember the shine of the 
linoleum tile.  The Sunday School teacher was reading passages from 
Proverbs, when these words pierced my troubled mind and engraved 
themselves upon my heart: "If any of you lack Wisdom, let him ask of 
God."

So my heart opened, and mentally I said, "Yes, please, God, give me 
Wisdom to deal with my troubles."  And, ever since that time, I know 
I have had an extra-awareness.  This awareness has not prevented me 
from encountering more abuse or pain; however, I made it to adulthood 
as a whole person.  Today I am married for 21 years and have 2 Indigo 
children who are happy and well adjusted.  Occasionally I receive 
amazing insights that are difficult to put into words, even to this 
day.  People have gasped at some of the things that seem to "just 
come out of my mouth" at the right moment. Some think I am crazy.

In my opinion, Human Beings are a hybrid of Lower Human Nature and 
Spiritual Being.  The problem is, we are raised as though the body is 
"who we are" instead of Spirit.  The Power I hooked-up with on that 
Sunday morning, I believe, is the Spiritual Being that expresses 
itself in this life situation as Diana Skipworth.

A man named Eckhart Tolle has written books about "The Power of Now," 
which are deep and totally impossible for many people to understand. 
But he's got it right, in my opinion.

Another Scientist making people scratch their heads is Masaru Emoto. 
He has captured the crystallization of water under different 
emotional suggestions.  There are now several different books after 
"The Hidden Messages in Water."  Wonderful pictures!

Because the World has seemed to devolve over past decades and spiral 
downwards, I had not dared to hope to live to see the day when 
Humankind becomes enlightened.  To me, this enlightenment is 
expressed in the Masonic symbol, the Reverse Seal of the United 
States of America.  (Pyramid with the all-seeing-eye) What a day that 
would be.

P.S.  This Reverse Seal of the United States has never been cast; 
only the Obverse Seal of the United States has been.  The U.S. 
Constitution requires both.  This is the physical manifestation of 
the spiritual lack of our country, (my opinion).  See also:  "The 
Secret Architecture of our Nation's Capital; The Masons and the 
Building of Washington, D.C." by David Ovason.

Regards,

Diana Skipworth

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Hi Diana,

Thanks for your personal-testimony contribution, and your references. 
You  mention prayer, and that is one of the things talked about in 
the Akashic Field book. In a controlled experiment, a group of 
patients who were being prayed for recovered from their maladies more 
quickly that the others - and the patients didn't know which ones 
were being prayed for.

I found the Power of Now to be very powerful at making concepts 
'real' that I had already 'understood' at a thinking level. It was 
for me somewhat of a life changing experience.

I'm now in the process of reading "Women Who Run with the Wolves". 
She talks about how the soul gets suppressed by life choices, and how 
it can be recovered. A really great book with lots of primordial 
stories presented and analyzed re/their psychological wisdom. The 
book is not just for women.

Can you say more about the nature of Indigo children, and how you 
know you have some. :-)

best wishes,
rkm

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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:51:56 -0700
From: Larry Victor <•••@••.•••>
X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
To:  •••@••.•••
CC: Albert Lundquist <•••@••.•••>,
  Jamie Lantz <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: "Science and the Akashic Field" - book report

Most interesting, Richard.  This may be related deeply to the core of 
our contemporary crisis of crises; yet, it is difficult to devote 
time to such speculations.  I am now reading PARAPSYCHOLOGY, 
PHILOSOPHY AND SPIRITUALITY: A Postmodern Exploration by David Ray 
Griffin (of 9/11 reknown). He argues well the same points as Lazlo 
and Pearson.  Although educated as a physicist I still find too my 
physics in Lazlo and Pearson. I ( and Griffin) believe 
"consciousness" and "creativity" are as fundamental as matter and 
energy, not derivative from physicalism -- which does not preclude, 
in the spirit of complementarity, mechanistic models for how 
consciousness and creativity map on physical processes.  Long ago I 
decided that the key to this issue may be our obsession with 
one-dimensional time.

Mechanisms are temporally one-dimensional, organisms require 
"temporal texture".  In analogy with Sheldrake's morphogenetic field, 
I propose "feedpast bootstrapping" where "info" can sometimes flow 
back (and forward) in 1D time).  All this verbage is extreme 
metaphor.  BUT, ALSO - consciousness - the realm of experientials - 
is not all that important as research now demonstrates that they 
follow brain actions -- BUT, this just pushes the domain of MIND 
beyond simple consciousness AND brain processes.

At the same time I remain humble in accepting my intrinsic 
incompetence to fully comprehend these issues.  I seek no answers and 
refuse to consider answers of others. We are not yet ready for 
answers.  But, I encourage ongoing querying.

Larry

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Hi Larry,

Why do you say we not ready for answers? Why would you refuse to 
'look through the telescope' of other's 'answers'?

rkm

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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:25:11 -0500
To: •••@••.•••
From: Tom Schley <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Laszlo's A-field

Hi Richard,

I find your "book report" of Laszlo and Pearson's work very 
unprejudiced and well thought out.  I've always considered the 
universe to be a great thought.  I suppose that would indicate the 
creator is a very large consciousness!  Just a hunch with no evidence 
of course, but it seems supported by Laszlo' and Pearson's work.

You might find the following books worth reading:
Roger Lewin's MAKING WAVES.  Lewin has written about early man and 
evolution with Richard Leakey, but is probably best known for his 
COMPLEXITY: LIFE AT THE EDGE OF CHAOS.  MAKING WAVES looks at the 
SuperWave theory of a colorful figure, Dr. Irving Dardik, a man who 
loves sports as much as medicine (he was an Olympic team doctor and a 
notable runner).  If nothing else Dardik dares to think beyond the 
box.  He even lost his medical license for his free thinking ways. 
The Superwave theory might somehow fit with the a-field theory in 
showing how everything is connected and how waves can lead to 
healing.  Though not a long book, it is full of new ideas and is fun 
and easy to read.

The second book, Henri Bortoft's THE WHOLENESS OF NATURE, I think of 
more as a "way" in Eastern terms, sort of a path of learning by 
doing.  I often have to read it in small doses and try it on for size 
before the new way of perceiving clicks.  Bortoft studied under 
physicist David Bohm and many of Bohm's ideas shine through this 
work.  Much of the work is inspired by the brilliant German writer 
and thinker, J. W.  Goethe, in particular his way of looking at 
nature as a whole rather than in parts.  In school I remember feeling 
something was missing when we studied biological organisms as a 
series of disconnected parts.  Well, this book has brought many of 
the parts back together for me.  I would say that here we have a 
picture of community and interconnectedness which we need to be 
thinking about if we want meaning and peace in our world.

Thanks Richard for bringing these intriguing ideas to our attention!
Best regards, Tom

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and thanks Tom for your additional references... rkm

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