-------------------------------------------------------- MSNBC Vote Fraud Video (Must See) http://www.truthout.org/multimedia.htm http://websrvr20.audiovideoweb.com/avwebdswebsrvr2143/news_video/5.countdown_56k.mov -------------------------------------------------------- http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1014 LA Indymedia (Video ) November 10 2 Tanks at L.A. Westwood Anti-Occupation Demonstration November 9, 2004 - At 7:50 PM armored tanks showed up at an anti-war protest in front of the federal building in Westwood. The tanks circled the block twice, the second time parking themselves in the street and directly in front of the area where most of the protesters were gathered... Enraged, some of the people attempted to block the tanks, but police quickly cleared the street. The people continued to protest the presence of the tanks, but after about ten minutes the tanks drove off. It is unclear as to why the tanks were deployed to this location. ------------- Friends, I think it is clear that the purpose of the tanks was to 'send a message' to us: "Be warned, the NWO fascist takeover is now complete." There are pictures at the URL above. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- From: Jim MacGregor Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:35:24 EST Subject: Re: dialog re: recent postings. from jim macgregor To: •••@••.••• Dear Richard As a newcomer I found the recent postings fascinating, refreshing and uplifting. The dialogue has lightened my almost overwhelming despair for the future of mankind and this beautiful planet. It has shown me the flicker of a candle flame which I earnestly hope can ignite your "dry grass fire". This is the first time ever that I have taken part in dialogue over the internet and am absolutely thrilled to bits at being able to join so many kindred spirits. I am not well read or versed here (my background is in family medicine) and I struggle to understand some of the debate, concepts and philosophical points. While some of it goes over my head, I guess I am par for the course of Joe Public and I do hope I can be of some future help in providing fairly representative feedback. From what I have read over the years, I can see that the neo-cons are taking America and the rest of the world back to another dark age - if not total oblivion. I have not yet read your new book but will certainly do so soon. You respond to Nick's comments about the book and question whether you should include an extended Escaping The Matrix. It may be inappropriate for me to comment without knowing the book, but I can comment on your matrix essay. For years I struggled to comprehend what the hell was going on in this world. I could clearly see evil at work and read more and more in an attempt to understand it. I was reading stuff in books and the web but completely unsure if it was true or not as some of it seemed completely off the wall eg. Nazi Germany keeping it's war machine on the move with fuel provide by the US. My father fought those fascists and suffered terribly as a result and I simply could not believe that this could be true. By complete chance, I came across Escaping The Matrix on the internet and it provided the most profound yet simple explanation to virtually everything that had puzzled me. I now consider that my eureka moment. I believe that without an understanding of your matrix metaphor, it is almost impossible for ordinary Joe Public to even begin to comprehend what is going on. An example is Jeff Kieffer's comments about Kerry possibly being in league with the stolen election: It is almost impossible to comprehend the sanity of Jeff's question without appreciating the matrix. If, before I had understood it, Jeff suggested to me that Kerry might actually have connived to throw the election, I would have considered him a basket case. Having read Escaping The Matrix just a few weeks ago, I did ask myself the very same question. Is it really beyond the bounds of credibility? As my friend John O'Dowd told me, "It is as if you have slowly awakened from the Matrix narcolepsy and found an inverted reality, what you thought was truth was a dream, and what you have awakened to find is the true nightmare of an amoral reality." The knowledge you and others are attempting to impart here is massively important and I believe your Escaping the Matrix is the key to this. With regard to practical aspects of spreading this information, I recently wrote a letter to a Scottish newspaper with daily circulation of aprox 200,000. I condemned the Iraq war and US imperialism and quoted from your work. I strongly urged reader to google and read Escaping The Matrix. In response to that letter, I have been invited to submit an essay to an on-line magazine which takes up to 850,000 hits. As a result of one letter, information on your work will have been disseminated to potentially a million people. Perhaps others might consider consider the possibilities here. kind regards jim -------- Dear Jim, Welcome to our community dialog! Very nice to receive your comments. As I read over the Matrix article, I find that the main theme works well, but much of the material is dated, particularly since 9/11. What I'm doing is weaving in the parts of the article that still apply with the later material in my original Part I of the new book. I think this will turn out to be effective. I should have a new draft of the book ready for posting very soon. stay in touch, rkm -------------------------------------------------------- From: Carolyn Baker To: •••@••.••• Subject: Re: FYI: recent newslog postings Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 16:34:08 -0700 Richard: Please see my latest article: MANUFACTURING DISSENT: HOW THE PROGRESSIVES GAVE THE ELECTION TO BUSH AT: http://www.globalresearch.ca Thank you. Carolyn Baker ------------ Dear Carolyn, Great article! I Posted it to newslog. I post a lot to newslog, which is intended primarily as an archive to be viewed on the web. But 53 people have actually subscribed. I recommend that people go there once a week or so to look for items of interest. I post there the best of the hundreds of articles I receive every week from various sources. rkm -------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 21:19:28 +0700 From: "Dave Patterson" To: •••@••.••• Subject: organise! Hi Richard - following your postings and new book with interest, as always - don't have much to say otherwise about it, and I expect "great stuff!" is not exactly what you are looking for in terms of commentary, so I haven't. But I received your most recent as I was finishing a letter for a group that may overlap your mailing list, and thought I would send it along for you to have a look at, and perhaps do me a small favor. I agree with most of what you say and think, but have not yet come to believe that we must just turn our backs on politics and the current system because of its deep corruption - I cannot think of any other practical way to organise our complex, modern societies, with so many people, not only in each country but in the world. I do indeed believe that it is not the system that is at fault, but that we have allowed it to be taken over by some very bad people - I think an advanced parliamentary-type system (in theory! - not the current corporate-controlled and corrupt manifestations thereof!) is probably as good as it gets, at least until the large majority of "We the People" are intelligent and mature enough to get along cooperatively - which I see as being quite a long ways down the road, from looking around the world today. We need, in my opinion, a good government to protect We the People from well-organised and powerful corporate or other marauders - that they have taken over the means we should be using to control them does not invalidate those means, it just means we need to regain control and be a bit more careful in the future about guarding our interests. In any event, you're busy and I won't go on - but what I thought was, if you had a few on the list in Canada, perhaps you could send this out for their perusal? (There's an easier-to-read version on my website at http://www.rudemacedon.ca/fhtt-letters/1113-organise.html Dave Patterson ---------- Dear Dave, Thanks for your comments. I must say I am somewhat mystified when people say "great stuff!" but then disagree with the main points I've been trying to put across. Life will always remain a mystery I suppose. Why do you think that a parliamentary system is the best in theory when no parliamentary system in history has been anything but a mechanism for elite rule? And why do people think it has been 'taken over' when it was run by elites from the very beginning, and designed by elites in the first place? My mind boggles. I agree that finding an alternative is a more problematic issue. But why do you say you "cannot think of any other practical way" when all of my chapters on harmonization have been trying to describe such a way? Perhaps you have reasons why you think those ideas are faulty. If so I'd very much like to hear those reasons... either I'll learn from them, or I can try to address them in the material. I don't mean to dis your contribution by the way, I appreciate it. But it does raise these questions in my head. best regards, rkm -- ============================================================ If you find this material useful, you might want to check out our website (http://cyberjournal.org) or try out our low-traffic, moderated email list by sending a message to: •••@••.••• You are encouraged to forward any material from the lists or the website, provided it is for non-commercial use and you include the source and this disclaimer. 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