@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Tue, 19 Dec 1995 08:07:57 -0800 Sender: "R. Byers" <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cj#350> re: spying trapdoors & voting While speculations about trapdoors and other micro-manipulations might help us focus our attention in the right places in the future, I think there is danger in getting caught up in this stuff when there isn't any evidence. You don't have to look any further than U.S. support of the Contras to see how the Nicaraguan elections were "manipulated". As I recall, the U.S. was saying loud in clear at the time, "Vote for the Sandinistas and the war continues. Vote for our candidates and the war will end." In conjunction with the war, there were the economic sanctions imposed by the U.S., and the two together provided a powerful reason to vote against the Sandinistas (who still got a little over 40% of the vote, I believe). Maybe the CIA/NSA were dinking around with software as a side project, but I don't see the need for speculating about that when there are perfectly good reasons for the outcome of the elections right in front of our faces. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Randy Byers •••@••.••• ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Dear Randy, Yes I remember clearly the media stories around the elections. The first thing they got wrong was the bit about it being the first genuine elections faced by the Sandanistas -- in fact the previous election had been monitored approvingly by a very credible international commission. The second thing they got wrong was to simply assume, as an axiom of human behavior, that people would vote for their oppressors when living under siege conditions. I don't recall that as being the attitude of the British in the blitz. Nicaragua had been through hard times in the past, and had shown courage and determination. Hatred of the Contras was strong, I got the impression stronger than fear. _Perhaps_ the Nicaraguans had a different psychology than the Brits did, or perhaps they had more reason to feel hopeless -- but media repetition of such a conclusion by no means establishes it. So I just don't accept the seige as an obvious explanation for the outcome, in fact it seems highly questionable. As a cover story to explain the result, it has evidently worked effectively, but is it any more than that? Regards, Richard @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. Moore (•••@••.•••) Wexford, Ireland •••@••.••• | Cyberlib=http://www.internet-eireann.ie/cyberlib ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~
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