re/ the vaccine controversey


Richard Moore

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Here’s a message I received, in response to our vaccine postings:


From: Lucija Tomljenovic
Date: 16 January 2012 19:54:04 GMT
Subject: vaccine papers

Hi Richard

I am sending you here some of our relevant recent publications on the subject of vaccines. I am also attaching here an expert witness report which I wrote recently on behalf of a mother who is getting sued by her husband for not wanting to vaccinate their 4 year old son. Their family has a history of severe reactions to vaccinations including death and seizures. I think you will find it useful. It is fully referenced and I am happy to provide you with full text copies of any of the cited documents. (note that the report is the point-to-point rebuttal to the pro-vaccine expert’s comments, I redacted all the official parts of the report in this pdf as well as the names for the sake of confidentiality). Zip folder has the docs which were provided to the judge along with the report

Briefly, this was the conclusion of my report:

Following facts are indisputable and yet ignored by all those who advocate vaccines.

1) Many infectious diseases have been eradicated long before vaccines were introduced due to better sanitation, nutrition and vast improvements in medical care.

2) Mass vaccination practices have resulted in emergence of both vaccine- and antibiotic- resistant strains of infectious organisms which have been shown to cause the same (if not greater) threat to children than those strains covered by the vaccines

3) Evidence of vaccine safety is very scant.

4) Most vaccine clinical trials only include healthy individuals, thus the true risks of vaccine adverse reactions in general populations remains unknown. Most notably, individuals with so-called false contraindications to vaccination (i.e., premature birth, family or personal history of seizures, family history of any adverse reactions following vaccination, stable neurological conditions, etc.) are precisely those who are universally excluded from vaccine trials. Hence the risk of vaccination in such individuals remains to this date undetermined.

5) Vaccine safety appears to be established on untested assumptions rather than scientific evidence.

Let me know if you have any further questions.
Best regards,

Lucija Tomljenovic
Neural Dynamics Research Group, 
Dept. of Ophthalmology and Visual Sciences
University of British Columbia
828 W. 10th Ave, Vancouver, BC, V5Z 1L8
I understand that one may be able to challenge Lucija’s credentials or motivation, or those of any single person. However I have seen these same questions raised by many sources. And the arguments and evidence I have seen thus far, from pro-vaccine sources, have not adequately dealt with these questions. So in my mind, in my ‘state of information’, these questions need to be successfully addressed, before I could endorse vaccines. I believe that the precautionary principle applies, and that non-use is the default preference when safety and efficacy questions are unsettled.

Here’s another response:
From: Sharon Almerigi
Date: 12 January 2012 11:07:11 GMT
To: “‘Richard Moore'” <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE Vaccines
Hi Richard,
 I follow the advice of Dr. Mercola on these things. If you’re interested in what he has to say about vaccines see here.
 Best wishes,

Regardless of our personal position on vaccines, and regardless of who is ultimately closer to the truth, we must acknowledge that there are different schools of thought prevalent in the general public. If those who ‘know the truth’ wish to convince ‘those who are ignorant’, it makes sense to listen respectfully to the other point of view, so that relevant arguments can be presented. To impatiently dismiss or attack ‘dissenters’ simply hardens mutual disagreement and mistrust. 

Finally, here’s a rather sensible observation from a reader:
From: George Keagle
Date: 15 January 2012 05:34:56 GMT
To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: FYI: some reader comments, re/ ‘perils of vaccines’

“…The biggest peril is having MY kids associate with YOUR kids if they are unvaccinated…”

I can never understand how proponents of the vaccination phenomenon can imply that if MY kids are UNvaccinated they present a threat to HER kids who ARE vaccinated.  
      If s/he has so much faith in the efficacy of vaccinations it would follow that s/he has no fear of my children infecting her children, who are protected by their vaccinations.  Duh!