Reader dialog, 18 April…

2006-05-18

Richard Moore

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 11:32:09 +0200 (W. Europe Standard Time)
From: "Earl"
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: What do you think is going on?

Richard,

Another interesting article, although I'm unsure of the source.
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.blogspot.com/2006/05/us-dollar-gets-flushed-down-world.html

Earl

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Thanks Earl,

Here's the lead paragraph from that URL:

     U.S. currency was called "unreliable as a reserve currency"
     by Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin, made a taboo word by the
     Public Chamber and centrist politicians, and ditched by the
     general public amid reports of its imminent depreciation.

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From: Stephen Shaw <>
Subject: Re: * Engdahl: USA's 'geopolitical nightmare' *
Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 18:28:25 -0400
To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••>

Richard,

Here are some ramblings:

I am thinking that the fabricated "war on terror" (to replace the 
much less versatile demonization of communism) was expected to be a 
central global domination tool and that the "Realists" supported it 
almost as widely as the neocons. The Realists may have thought that 
the "war on terror" should have been developed with more finesse and 
that the geopolitical mess that Engdahl describes may be the result 
of inexcusable clumsiness.

It also may be that some insiders think that 9/11 was a badly 
executed operation that has consequently enabled 9/11 truth to 
consistently gain ground. If 9/11 truth reaches critical mass then it 
is a hot potato that the Realists are in the best position to disown. 
The Realists may have prodded on the zealous neocons knowing that the 
neocons would take the fall if things went sour. Maybe taking down 
the neocons is meant to derail 9/11 truth and salvage the "war on 
terror" as an intervention-justifying tool.

Also - money these days is supposed to be so mobile that I resist 
thinking of the US as a coherent entity. As we've probably mentioned, 
it seems like the US is being subjected to the same treatment as the 
third world: bankrupted in order to pry it open to additional 
exploitation.  Thinking outside the box, maybe the dollar is meant to 
collapse. I am sure somebody would make out like a bandit, in the 
short or long run, if it did. The question is how powerful are those 
who would want this to happen. Thomas Barnett 
(http://www.thomaspmbarnett.com/) once chuckled at the idea that we 
borrow money from China to spend as we please. He seemed to imply 
that we have no intention of paying it back.

Thinking really big, the elites would seek to control all major 
players - east and west - and their only real enemy is people-power. 
Wars could be seen as money-making gambits that are irresistible to 
those who gain from them, but that the Realists or Globalists don't 
want them to be an end in themselves and want to move ahead to their 
vision of a privately controlled world. They may be angry at the 
feeding frenzy of the digression of making wars.

And again, if China supports Iran and Iran tries to undermine the 
dollar, is China shooting itself in the foot?

More questions than answers as usual!

Regards,

Stephen

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Hi Stephen,

Very sound thinking. You are laying out a spectrum of possibilities 
(aka brainstorming) - a key step in the process of analysis. Not only 
that, but your particular spectrum makes a lot of sense.

imho,
rkm

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From: "Tim Murphy" <>
Subject: Ameropathic
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 17:05:56 +0100

     Ameropathic

     Definition:

     The US policy of neo-imperialist corporate fascism. The
     thinking and behaviour of those who rule the United States
     of America, their cronies and allies, typified by an
     irrational, psychotic belief in unrestrained free market
     capitalism combined with policies of domestic tyranny,
     religious fundamentalism and aggressive wars leading to
     environmental devastation and human genocide.

     Ameropath:

     One who follows the above policy. An American or follower or
     client, who engages in or supports the above policy of
     neo-imperialist corporate fascism.

     Ameropathy:

     The attitudes exhibited by Ameropaths and the symptoms of
     Ameropathic politics, economics, war and ecocide.

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Hi Tim,

Very creative! :-)

rkm

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From: "Peter Hollings" <>
To: "'Richard Moore'" <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: John Pilger on Iraq: the Salvador Option
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 12:54:18 -0400
Organization: Institute for Professionals in Taxation

Looks like the "Bernard Lewis Plan" or Brzezinski's "Arc of Crisis" 
for the Middle East which was related to the so-called "Global War on 
Terrorism" several years ago in an article titled "Practice to 
Deceive: Chaos in the Middle East is not the Bush hawks' nightmare 
scenario--it's their plan" 
(http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0304.marshall.html). 
It's an old strategy practiced by the British in colonial Africa to 
win by getting the enemy to fight himself, resulting in fragmenting 
countries along ethnic lines and leading to weak, ineffectual states 
vulnerable to exploitation.

In my opinion, this is certainly a very viable interpretation of 
events and it would certainly indicate that a wider war was 
forthcoming -- provided the overall strategy was (as seems likely) 
still in effect. The question is how to bring it about in the current 
political environment.

Peter Hollings

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From: "Marion Young"
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: What do you think is going on?
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 09:32:18 -0700

Here's something to add to the good thoughts out there:

The planet is overpopulated and the elitists would love to 
drastically reduce our numbers. Because BushCo has done some of the 
most dastardly acts against our Constitution, Americans and the 
world, there may be something far more sinister going on here.

What if the bird flu pandemic that is now widely thought to happen 
soon was man-made? Or, what if it is a naturally occurring pestilence 
that BushCo can manipulate into something far worse than it should be 
by mismanaging the protection of our people?

It was estimated that 30-50% of the population died during the 1300s 
from the Plague. At today's count, no country is prepared to handle 
that quantity of deaths. If something like this were to occur, with 
or without the horrors of an Iran War, this country would go into 
mass chaos.

Look what happened with Katrina. There were people who heard 
explosions at the levy when the hurricane hit. It's possible that a 
major threat was made worse with a little help from those with a 
sinister agenda, along with negligence and incompetence to ensure a 
failed rescue.

Yes, this is a conspiracy theory. But we are now faced with the fact 
that 911 is no longer considered just a conspiracy theory, but an 
actual event brought on by BushCo. They have, and continue to, carry 
out shock after shock of actions that are unbelievable to the 
uninformed and naive. Nothing would surprise me what these madmen 
would do to achieve their ultimate goal of world domination.

Bush is overriding laws and ignoring Congress. This seems to be a 
sign of a far more sinister form of government ahead. With their 
crumbling empire and the King now exposed as naked, this group of 
thugs is desperate and will do anything to reach their goals they 
have long pursued in the dungeons. They are more dangerous now than 
ever before and must be stopped.

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Hi Marion,

You make a lot of sense. The bird flu epidemic, by the way, is the 
result of factory farming, which the media studiously avoids 
mentioning.

rkm

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From: FFRANKMAX
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 12:16:10 EDT
Subject: Re: What do you think is going on?
To: •••@••.•••

     THE PARADIGM IS THE ENEMY: The State of the Peak Oil
     Movement at the Cusp of Collapse -  A Speech by Michael C.
     Ruppert for the Local Solutions to the Energy Dilemma
     Conference - April 27-29, New York City, at Cooper Union
     http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/042706_paradigm_speech.shtml

     "This is the most important speech of my life. If you read
     anything I've written this year, read this" - MCR

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From: "JAMES MACGREGOR" <>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: What do you think is going on?
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 21:47:32 +0100

The varied responses make clear the dangers of attempting to forecast
what's about to happen to an apparently rudderless S.S World with such
individuals on the bridge.

Vey interseting, though.

jim

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From: Firefly
Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 20:25:28 EDT
Subject: Feedback-----What do you think is going on?
To: •••@••.•••

Mt. Washington, Los Angeles, CA 90026

Ah ho,  RKM,

    earlier contribution from Canada >> It's also possible that the 
quagmire is exactly what the
     bosses want and that Rumsfeld has succeeded, that public
     opinion simply doesn't matter anymore and that Rumsfeld's
     fall will be merely window-dressing.

I agree with the Canadian comment.  Quagmire means more budget 
appropriations.  Note how much extra millions they keep asking. With 
corporate media in place at all strategic  papers, airwaves & 
netwaves -- public opinion is not a problem for the neocons.  They 
are betting again that the next 9-11 will take care of any public 
opinion questions.

This is why we should all brace ourselves for the next 9-11.

Lilia Adecer Cajilog (Firefly)
Volunteers for Tawo
POB 1456
South Pasadena, CA 91031


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Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 15:47:49 +0800
From: Tony Troughton-Smith <>
Reply-To:  •••@••.•••
To: Richard Moore <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Cuba's 'Peak Oil'

Hi Richard

A friend forwarded the following to me, and I thought it might 
interest you.  It's about a film, it seems, not a book, despite the 
title! My local socialist group is planning to try to obtain this 
film, which might be an interesting meeting.

Regards

Tony

     Book Reviews
     The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil
     By John N. Cooper
     May 5, 2006, 11:15
     http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_21913.shtml

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From: "Brian Hill" <>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: RE: What do you think is going on?
Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 09:40:47 -0700
Organization: Institute  for Cultural Ecology

What is typical for empires during their post-classic stage of 
evolution is that increasingly their plans fail - this could be a 
manifestation.  Also, archeologists who study the disintegration of 
civilizations well know that a major cause for the leveling of 
imperialist states is that it becomes harder and harder for them to 
control their colonies and conquer new ones which their imperial 
appetites demand in order to continue.

There is now question about which way the wind is blowing.

Brian

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From: "T K Wilson" <>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: * Engdahl: USA's 'geopolitical nightmare' *
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 22:31:47 -0500

Here's an article from Asia Times which is apropos' to the subject. 
Sent to me by a friend (ac).

     Cheney puts Moscow to the hardness test
     By M K Bhadrakumar
     http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HE09Ag01.html

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Hi TK,

Here's the lead paragraph...

     "No legitimate interest is served when oil and gas become
     tools of intimidation or blackmail, either by supply
     manipulation or attempts to monopolize transportation,"
     Cheney told the gathering, in remarks intended to be heard
     in the Kremlin.

This is really funny, coming from a US official, in the wake of 
illegal invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq - both concerned with 
manipulating supply and monopolizing transportation.

rkm

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From: "Radical Press" <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: * Engdahl: USA's 'geopolitical nightmare' *
Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 21:33:43 -0700

Dear Richard,

Thank you for Engdahl's article. What I think is "going on" is 
business as usual for the political Zionists who have been directing 
US domestic and foreign policy since the days of Colonel House and 
Woodrow Wilson's administration.

There is nothing really new in the Zionists' agenda other than to 
state the obvious, which is that their long-term objective since day 
one was to destroy the USA as a sovereign nation in order to bring in 
their hideous notion of a one world government.

Engdahl's comment that Walt and Mearsheimer's article on the Israeli 
lobby  is "The most fascinating indication of a sea-change within the 
American political establishment towards the Bush Doctrine and those 
who are behind it...." needs to be taken with a grain of salt. I say 
that because in the next breath he's talking about the "old-guard 
foreign policy establishment" of Kissinger and Brzezinski, et al, all 
Zionist Jews like the current crop of cronies now in the process of 
dismantling the empire for ulterior motives.

Political analysts who overlook the past century (almost) of control 
over US policies by the Zionist Jews are betraying a naivete that 
only those who have researched the long term goals of these criminals 
can recognize.

If the media in the USA is beginning to attack Bush and Co it's only 
to cover their own asses and certainly not to benefit the average 
American citizen. We must always remain cognizant of the fact that 
all of the US/Great Britain media is in the hands of the Zionist 
cartel and they do not print or display anything unless it is to 
benefit themselves first and foremost. Rather than a "sea-change" I 
see only a different set of Zionist deck chairs being rearranged. 
Sorry if this sounds unduly pessimistic but I believe it's closer to 
the truth than what Engdahl's letting on. Time, of course, will tell.

Best regards,

Arthur Topham
Pub/Ed
The Radical Press

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Hi Arthur,

There are a lot of people these days who agree with you on this, but 
I'm not one of them.

One thing to keep in mind is that there is a direct lineage from 
wartime Nazi collaborators to today's US leadership. Prescott Bush, 
for example, employed slave labor from Auschwitz in his factories, 
which operated throughout the war. Zionism has been a handy tool in 
supporting US policies in the Middle East, but that doesn't mean 
Zionists are in charge. Israel may take comfort in its close alliance 
with the US, but Israel is an extremely vulnerable position if a 
nuclear shooting war emerges out of the various Mideast tensions.

Rather than Israel being the tail wagging the dog, I see Israel (in 
terms of its state policies) as being an attack dog, sent in to the 
fray ahead of its masters, to take the first bullets. I see 
Mearsheimer's article as being a sign that the close alignment of US 
policy with Zionism may be subject to change.

imho,
rkm

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Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 01:40:16 +0200
Subject: "Come Out of the White House with Your Hands
  Up!"
From: "H. Ritter" <>

have a look at
<http://chicago.indymedia.org/newswire/display/71971/index.php>

Love and Peace

Henner Ritter - Stuttgart/Germany

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Hi Henner,

Thanks. Here's the beginning of that article:

     Reynolds: "Come Out of the White House with Your Hands Up!"
     Madison, WI
     Saturday, May 6, 2006

     An enthusiastic standing-room-only crowd packed the
     Wisconsin Historical Society auditorium Saturday to hear
     ex-Bush Administration insider Morgan Reynolds prosecute top
     administration and military officials for the 9/11 inside
     job.    

     Reynolds indicted Richard Cheney, George W. Bush, former
     Joint Chiefs Chairman Richard Meyers, confessed WTC
     demolisher and insurance-fraudster Larry Silverstein, and
     others for mass murder, conspiracy, and other charges
     including high treason. The enthusiastic response from the
     overflow crowd was a de facto vote for conviction on all
     counts.
     ---<snip>---

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