@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ From: Kathleen Geathers <•••@••.•••> Thanks Richard for your remarks, especially about the media. When I was in school, I was taught that the pen is mightier than the sword, and an unbiased press would be a moderating force on governmental misdeeds. Unfortunately, the press is a tool of government, helping to keep the populace in the dark, selling them on who to vote for for president. Even taking polls on whether this government should fight a war. Thanks again. I wish we would take a hard look at the subjugation imposed on us. If we did , we would hesitate to call this a democracy. Kathleen @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Dear Kathleen, Thanks for your message. My goal certainly is to help people "take a hard look at the subjugation imposed on us", however I can. Not meaning to quibble with your sentiments, but I would distinguish between "tool of government" and "tool of the corporate elite". Many people in government have their hearts in a good place, and try to do a good job for the people, when they're allowed to. It's the corporate elite who run the media and make a tool (fool?) of government. A democracy it ain't. In Solidarity, Richard @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 21:15:36 -0800 Sender: Arun Mehta <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: cj#302> re: Corporations > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 13:10:12 -0800 > Sender: •••@••.••• (Andrew Curry) > > It's a long time since I read this stuff, but from memory, the > reason that Marx did not consider "cost of capital" was because > he believed that the accumulation of capital in a non-socialist > society involved expropriation somewhere along the line, either > economic or political. I hate to be supporting the line of the capitalists, particularly since I rather lack the capital that would put me on their side :-) but should one not take the position of innocent until proven guilty? Is there, according to Marx, no honest way to make money? > Equally, the Beatles CDs would be cheaper if they didn't involve > EMI, etc, taking their percentage of surplus value at the various > stages of the manufacturing and distribution process. What the EMIs of the world say is that they produce lots of CDs, some of which hardly sell, and they would not be able to do that unless they charged what they do for the Beatles. I personally would rather have the diversity than the record companies playing it safe and churning out the kind of stuff many TV networks seem to do. Arun Mehta, B-69 Lajpat Nagar-I, New Delhi-24, India. Phone 6841172,6849103 "I do not want my house to be walled in on all sides and my windows to be stuffed. I want the cultures of all the lands to be blown about my house as freely as possible. But I refuse to be blown off my feet by any."--Gandhi @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 1995 12:35:30 -0500 Sender: Progressive News & Views List <•••@••.•••> Subject: Re: GOP's hidden agenda From: Gary Weston <•••@••.•••> There is nothing surprising about Dole's taking pride in having voted against Medicare in 1965, or in Newt explaining how he plans to kill it by budget cuts. The GOP "revolution" began in 1981 when Reagan, aided and abetted by the Democratic controlled congress, began the process which led to a 400% increase in the national debt. The GOP eagerly participated in the debt runup so that they might, in the future, use the debt as a rationale for eliminating all federal social spending. Their aim is, quite obviously, to wipe out all federal programs, including SS, Medicare, and Medicaid, which do not contribute directly to the benefit of American and multinational corporations and their stockholders. Because the mainline media have done such a marvelous job of pitting the groups at risk against one another, it's absolutely vital that we continue to do whatever is possible to educate the American public as to what is really happening. They won't read about it in the NYT, and they won't hear about it on the evening TV news. We have to continue to support the alternative media, and to do whatever we can to make sure that they get the widest possible exposure. Give your Z, or your NATION, or your PROGRESSIVE to friends and relatives. Write letters to the editor of your local papers. And, by all means, write or phone your congresspeople and make damn sure they know that their support for the attempt to dismantle the safety nets will cost them your vote. It may not be much, but it's what we have to work with at the moment. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 01:31:03 +1100 (EST) To: •••@••.••• From: David <•••@••.•••> Subject: NEW DAWN MAGAZINE ONLINE ANNOUNCEMENT ------------ Australia's leading alternative news magazine, NEW DAWN, is now online at http://www.omen.com.au/mystical/newdawn.html The site will feature the text of one article from each edition of NEW DAWN. ** See NEW DAWN No. 33 and our exclusive interview with former Mossad agent Victor Ostrovsky ONLINE. Any comments can be directed to me at this address or the email address listed at NEW DAWN's site. David Jones Editor, New Dawn. P.S. - Place us on your "Links" page, and we will reciprocate the favour. @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ Editor's Note: New Dawn is the magazine that is publishing my articles on the New World Order. -rkm @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~ Posted by Richard K. Moore <•••@••.•••> Wexford, Ireland (USA citizen) Editor: The Cyberjournal (@CPSR.ORG) See the CyberLib at: http://www.internet-eireann.ie/cyberlib See Cyber-Rights library: http://jasper.ora.com/andyo/cyber-rights/cyber-rights.html You are encouraged to forward and cross-post messages and online materials for non-commercial use, provided they are copied in their entirety, with all headers, signatures, etc., intact. ~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~--~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=~
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