============================================================================ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 05:12:17 -0500 To: •••@••.••• From: Mark Douglas Whitaker <•••@••.•••> Subject: re: movement strategy I fail to see anyone ever 'getting rid of capitalism,' because capitalism is more of a process of commodification where there are markets to be found, instead of something engineered. Capitalism is a lot like entropy, and it grows off the atomization, the anonymous purchasing and investing decisions that no one would ever make if they knew, that say, they were undercutting THEIR particular families business, or cutting THEIR family's and friends out of a job, etc. Capitalism is the commodification of anonymity. And when someone organizes enough anonymity for it to be profitable, people began to peel away to the 'easier' offering, even if their purchases and relationships are integrated into a huge faceless organization--hey, it's cheaper (at least in the short run). Sure, the case is well made (and I would make it myself) that the typical ideas of capitalism are nothing without the back-engineering and gerrymandering of the nation-state, bastioning it and making it seem far more profitable than it actually is. Profit of course is its legitimacy, that it is 'efficient' etc., something that is, from all the research I have seen like pornography, "you know efficiency when you see it," efficiency being an accolade given to politically influential businesses as legitimation for their political sway. It's like saying 'he or she has charisma,' to justify why someone was born into a family that ran the corporation and is the vice president. "Oh, it's their...charisma." Instead of 'getting rid of capitalism,' I feel the case can be made for three points: that capitalism can be removed from its hegemony as the developmental pattern in the nation-state, with more effective political feedback mechanisms which would allow for more input on what type of society people would like to be living in--input they are already giving yet it falls short of being brought to the table because of limitations on what we have inherited as democracy. This type of democracy we have inherited only 'gives enough' to let highly undemocratic politics continue. With globalization, capitalism (as a process here) can break out of the nation-state the 'grew' it to the world level that we know it to be. To return to the point about further political feedback mechanisms, that is what civil society and democracy are all about, except powerful actors rarely want to play that way (and I might add, most of the population as well). This would mean recognizing that ethnic groups, gender groups, and sexuality groups, and other forms of human community besides urbanized societies (hunter and gatherers, village agriculturalists who like who and where they are, etc., green political forces, bioregionalism) are tangibly important to the political process and all represent democracy, instead of simply the 'labor/capitalism' battle that has gotten more press, possibly due to the much of the world living in a condition of state capitalism and economistic reductionist thought. Perhaps even 'youth' and 'age' can be considered political groups and actors, with within the scale of the societies that the capitalist state has set up. Capitalism as we have come to know it has a great deal to do with the situation of an unrepresentative state structure; i would go so far as to say that capitalism is as it is because of an unrepresentative state structure. I have written something on this point. It is posted on the cyberjournal.org website. Secondly, taking my first point about capitalism being a political ecological wide phenomenon that all societies and states have to some extent--if capitalism is unable to be intrinsically removed, only challenged for political sway in the state--then another strategy that can be 'profitable' and can be organized immediately is simply to give people who are externalized political power (and thus economic privileged) a means to set up a 'dual economy' worldwide, giving them more choice than a state capitalism would ever provide. This means intentionally setting up economies of interconnections, 'boycotting' to some extent, degradative political economies of capitalism; this means creating separate circuits of capital, that avoid the hegemonic structures. (Easy to do, the capitalist structures are already ignoring them anyway.) Dually, this would have the added effect of making the choices for every society much more richer with variation and with choice for everyone--to have these structures in place would be a safety net for everyone who are suffering from the capitalist triage. I am talking of activities that are going on already that are only lacking a vision to match their already hopeful visions that have given them the strength to organize economically and politically on their own. Furthermore, this would provide a much required basis for moderating the capitalist state, in terms of giving more organizational muscle and staying power to those externalized from power. I suppose what I am saying is, "hey, no one will listen to you in the state until you have enough mass society behind you and organized economically and politically. Areas I am thinking about that are already occurring anyway: decentralized finance, credit unions, ROSTAs co-operatives co-housing electric generation from cleaner raw materials than oil, coal, etc. educational facilities removed from the capitalist state structure permaculture (challenging the wastelands of monocultural agriculture, for a multi use basis), sustainable sea fishing/farming pressures bioregional mobilizations and green organizations ethnic group mobilizations gender mobilizations sexuality mobilizations and many more (from a list I have been keeping) Ways should be found to integrate such groups into economic and social circuits, to bastion a wider sense of choice for us all instead of only the capitalist state's version of economic and social development. If all these already strong separate channels could simply become connected economically and have the aim of 'growing' and enriching the capitalist state with other institutional forms--then they will be heard. It's a case of together we stand, or divided we keep falling. An easy route that slowly makes this possible is through economic integration, from which follows at a human pace social relationships. Thirdly, they both fit together. changes in the structure of the state (that would intentionally integrate more local processes and agenda setting) and pressures for a more 'socially integrative' economics would dovetail quite well. The difficulty is that people become accustomed to their anonymity, to their capitalist world. They climb the ladders that they find--despite them all lacking rungs higher up for everyone. All I can say is that it is our job to build more ladders for everyone, out of the hole we have gotten (and have been placed) into. The way to do this is to find ways of cross-linking existing social and economic relations that are already externalized in the capitalist state, and turning that into an advantage: the incentive for co-operation. Mark Whitaker University of Wisconsin-Madison ============================================================================ Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:07:02 -0400 From: Yves Leclerc <•••@••.•••> Subject: Democracy, humanity and information To: •••@••.•••, •••@••.••• I've been very silent on these lists for several months. First because there was fairly little for me to say, then because there was too much. The recent discussions and revelations about Kosova and the Balkan War induce me to raise my voice again. I've been a fascinated student of practical and theoretical politics ever since, at age 15, I had my eyes opened by the simultaneous and similar colonialist invasions by France and England at Suez, by the USSR in Hungary. Here are some of the conclusions of over 40 years of study, debate and thought on these matters, especially as they relate to the current crisis: a) There is no direct relationship between the kind of democracy we practice and respect for human life and rights. Milosevic is a democratically elected leader. So is Clinton. Both don't mind wantonly destroying human lives -- Milosevic's crime the more obvious and immediate, but Clinton's probably the worse in the long run. Why? Milosevic's deadly instincts only run within his own country, and are strongly opposed by much of the citizenry. Clinton's violence affects the whole world outside his own country, he has popular support and no fear of retribution. Moreover, he is smugly self-righteous about it and the means at his disposal are much more lethal. Milosevic will eventually be brought to heel, Clinton (and his successors) won't. b) The problem has its cause not in individuals or personalities but in the system itself. Representative democracy as we implement it only serves to perpetuate the current situation where power-hungry elites monopolize political and military levers and use them to bargain shamelessly with economic power-holders. Since economic power is inherently anti-equalitarian and thrives on isolating individuals to better control and exploit them for profit, this is a very poor way of protecting the lives, rights and interests of ordinary people. c) The only form of democracy that could effectively protect most people is one where the citizens themselves would dictate basic policies, and their delegated (rather than representative) leaders would only have enough power to implement these. Such a direct democracy approach is physically and technically possible today, using both old-fashioned "town meeting" methods and modern communications technology, but this is not enough: the long-term survival of the system depends on the quality of the democratic decisions taken, and this in turn can only be ensured by the deciders-voters having access to reliable and complete information. d) The "diversity" of information provided by private media won't answer this need. The very enlightening debates about media coverage, both on these lists and on the "Monde Informatique" forum in France, show this clearly enough. Corporate-owned media compete against each other only where their real interests conflict -- not where they're the same. This means they may give an appearance of diversity, but will omit, or treat with a strong negative bias any news that contradicts their basic shared ideology. For instance, anything that challenges the corporate agenda of globalization, G-7 dominance, NATO's strong-arm approach to a one-sided "world peace", etc. e) Individual journalists' efforts to correct this are obviously insufficient. First, because without the support of their organizations they lack the means to really do much. But more subtly, because subconsciously they live within the same ideology and largely share it -- including its bias against anything uncapitalist or unamerican. They may try to cover honestly the opposite viewpoint, but to them it remains "the other side", not an option equal in importance and validity to their own. Having been a journalist myself for nearly 40 years, and having discovered this flaw in my own professional thinking in a number of occasions, I know first-hand what I'm talking about. f) At least a partial solution to the problem lies in a hybrid press system, where publicly-owned media compete *on a level footing* with private ones. Having seen quite a few such systems in action in France, Britain, Canada and some Third World countries, I know that their citizens are usually better informed than Americans -- taking into account the resources each nation can allocate to information. The laudable efforts of the PBS system in the US to bring a bit more balance to news coverage only emphasize their paucity of means and the discrepancy in resources and audience between them and the major private networks. Of course this won't solve our immediate problems... but while I have a lot of respect for all those trying to plug the leaks in the dyke with their naked fingers, in the long run some people will have to take the time to bring bulldozers and cranes into action, if we don't want our whole civilization to crumble under a North Sea of military-industrial bullshit. I certainly don't want to find myself permanently in a situation where the fact that the Chinese stole the Pentagon's nuclear secrets becomes our sole protection against Washington's jingoism and power-hunger. -- Yves Leclerc, Montreal "Les choses sont moins simples qu'elles ne paraissent, mais plus simples qu'on ne les croit." ============================================================================ ======================================================================== •••@••.••• a political discussion forum. crafted in Ireland by rkm (Richard K. 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