The 911 Grand Coup, elites, and how to overcome them…

2002-05-15

Richard Moore

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From: "Bernd Hamm" <•••@••.•••>
To: •••@••.•••
Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 09:15:47 +0200
Subject: re: The Grand Coup 
Priority: normal

Richard,

I've been following your debates for a while with a lot of
sympathy. Having collected a documentary of several hundred
pages on 9-11, I still didn't have the time to work my way
through it. But you and some of your friends might like to
read the attached. The evidence for a Grand Coup is
accumulating quickly.

Regards, Bernd Hamm

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Dear Bernd,

I scanned your article and read some selections -- nice
work.  If anyone out there wants the article in MSWord
format, write to either myself or to Bernd.  If anyone 
puts it up on the web, please let us know the URL.

thanks,
rkm
http://cyberjournal.org

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Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 18:14:56 -0700
Subject: Re: The Grand Coup & what to do about it...
From: Bruce Elkin <•••@••.•••>
To: <•••@••.•••>

  rkm > The problem is how to achieve effective organization
  without introducing hierarchy at the same time.

Richard,

The challenge (not problem) is how to create a hierarchy of
ideas and values that we call all share rather than a
structural hierarchy of people where the ideas of those with
the most power dominate those with less.

Hierarchies of value render hierarchies of power obsolete.

See Riane Eisler for more on this concept.

Cheers!
B.
www.BruceElkin.com

" A vision without a task is but a dream.
  A task without a vision is drudgery.
  A vision with a task is the hope of the world."
  - Church Inscription, Sussex, England  1730

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Dear Bruce,

I can agree with you only if the top of the value hierarchy
is, "We need to get along with one another and with the
planet", and the rest of the hierarchy is allowed to vary
from place to place, and person to person.  But if you are
suggesting a system of values that is comprehensive, and
which everyone must agree to, then we seriously part
company.

That approach has been tried many times throughout history,
under the name of 'religion' or of 'ideology'.  And each
time it has 'succeeded' only through coercion.  The fact is
that people don't all have the same values, and they never
will - not by free choice.  In fact, I've never seen any
~two~ people with the same hierarchy of values - unless they
happen to be members of a brainwashed cult.

The proposal has a certain theoretical appeal, but it just
doesn't square with human nature - and I'm very glad it
doesn't.  What a boring world it would be if we agreed on
everything.  A society of ants instead of diverse, free,
creative human spirits.

Any attempt to change human nature 'for the better' ends up
being coercive.  And the more radical the attempted change,
the more oppressive the tyranny.  We've seen this in the
history of Christianity, Islam, Communism, and Capitalism.

If we want a world of free people, then we must start by
accepting human nature for what it is.  It comes with
differing values and conflicting viewpoints. Not only
between individuals, but between societies and cultures.  I
embrace the rich variety of people and of cultures.  Just as
diversity is desirable in an ecosystem, so is it among human
societies.

A vision?... getting along in a world of diversity.  A task?
... accomplishing that.

best regards,
rkm
http://cyberjournal.org

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Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 22:28:07 -0700
To: •••@••.•••
From: Larry Tesler <•••@••.•••>
Subject: re: The Grand Coup & what to do about it...

Richard,

I am curious as to why, as an apparent opponent of
conspiracies aimed at gaining political power, you are
trying to use this forum to organize just such a conspiracy.
Or have I misunderstood your position and aims?

At least the pure anarchists who oppose group action are
self-consistent on this point.

Larry

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Dear Larry,

I believe you are misunderstanding either me or else the
meaning of the word 'conspiracy' - the heart of whose
definition is ~secrecy~.

This is an open list, which anyone can subscribe to.  Of our
more than a thousand subscribers, I count seven whose id's
include '.gov'.  Most of my ideas about revolutionary change
are on the cj website - accessible to any search engine -
and all the postings end up (eventually) on the website
archives.  There is no secrecy here, and no conspiracy.

In fact, I have written more than once about what a bad idea
conspiracy is as a tool of social change.  If we want to
achieve an open society, then we need to begin with an open
movement for change.  The means always become the ends.  A
conspiratorial movement always involves a core-group of
planners who in the end become a new elite - ala the
Bolsheviks - ala the Founding Fathers.  Both betrayers of
revolution.

Not only that, but a core-group can be infiltrated and or
assassinated.  A people's revolution needs to be holographic
- any part can reproduce the whole.  All plans and goals
need to be open and public.  In that I agree with Chomsky.

As for "anarchists who oppose group action", those are
people who have no understanding whatever of what real
anarchism is about.  Anarchism is about ~organic~
organization, which in the end is more powerful than any
kind of hierarchical / mechanical organization.  But that
end is unfortunately a long time coming.

modeless in wexford,
rkm

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To: •••@••.•••
Subject: Thank You for "Escaping the Matrix"
Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 19:19:37 +0000

Richard - 

I would just like to thank you for your article "Escaping the 
Matrix."  It is the most clear, comprehensive, and lucid 
description of my own evolving world view that I have yet to 
encounter, and believe me, I've been looking.  

As a fellow seeker of truth and perspective, I would just like to 
express my appreciation for your efforts.  I have only just 
discovered your work (through the radio program "Unwelcome 
Guests" via the A-Infos Radio Project) and look forward to 
continuing to explore your ideas. 

Respectfully, 

Jason Agard

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Dear Jason,

Thanks for your note.  That article has gotten more feedback
than any other I've published.  Ironically, I had a very
hard time getting Whole Earth to publish it.  It seems the
editorial staff just couldn't stomach the idea that elites
control things.  It went against the grain of their liberal
mentality.  I admire their humanity in that they did their
best to improve the article even though they didn't agree
with it.  Since then the article has been published in New
Dawn magazine (Australia), and several zines.  I absolutely
loved the film (despite the special effects), which inspired
the article,

all the best in your quest,
rkm

Article: http://cyberjournal.org/cj/rkm/WE/jun00Matrix.shtml
Note: A-Infos is an anarchist group.

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Delivered-To: •••@••.•••
Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2002 05:10:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: question question <•••@••.•••>
Subject: site update
To: •••@••.•••

http://www.questionsquestions.net

has been updated!  in particular, the 9/11 section has
been partially re-written with a number of new or
updated links. those of you who have already read it
may want to skim through again.

if you consider this site useful, please help me
spread the word about it!

thank you,

brian salter
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From: "Joost van Steenis" <•••@••.•••>
To: "Richard K. Moore" <•••@••.•••>
Subject: Re: Do not forget the elite, the 24th Letter
Date: Mon, 13 May 2002 15:23:44 +0200

    rkm > We don't need to point fingers, we need to learn how
    to totally change the system from the bottom up.  Our focus
    needs to be on ourselves - we the people - and how we are
    going to get what we want.  We need to understand where the
    system came from, and how it works, in order that we can aim
    for something that will be better and that will last.  The
    elite, and capitalism, are simply two elements which we
    don't want to include in the new system.  They are not our
    focus.

Hello Richard,

"Our focus needs to be on ourselves ....." you write and I
do agree up to a certain height because it is difficult to
get yourself out of a swamp by pulling at your own hair.

I use a twofold strategy in which all turns around
consciousness. The consciousness of people from the masses
that they can do something of worth has to be strengthened
and I see that accomplished by successful actions against
the elite or by successful activities in which the elite is
not involved. When you once have had some success you will
be more confident in next activities, success breeds success
and success improves the own confidence.

On the other side the elite restricts the growing confidence
of the masses by its activities and therefore the activities
of the elite must be changed by a direct contact between
masses and elite. When the eliteman sees that his activities
are curtailed by the activities of people from the masses
then he will be less confident when he has to take new
decisions that are more favourable for the elite than for
the masses.

To be sure that the people from the masses act without the
(silent) consent of the elite I propose activities of
alternating minorities from interested and involved people
from the masses, relatively small groups without long-living
leaders. When the action is terminated then the group falls
apart and the individuals can or cannot form or join another
minority. You see I do need to direct my arrows at the elite
and at the same time the focus has to be on which activities
we ourselves do.

The elite is only in focus in the form of a fixed hook on
which we can fasten the rope by which we can draw ourselves
out of the morass. When we are at the same level as the
elite the elite will vanish. But only when people are
conscious and not give their consent to leaders - right,
left or not belonging to the (political) elite as the
murdered Fortuyn in Holland - who act in the first place to
preserve the system from which the elite benefits in the
first place.

Yours, Joost van Steenis
http://members.ams.chello.nl/jsteenis
New ways to break the power of the elite

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Dear Joost,

You've worked out a rather elaborate schema for change. Does
anyone else understand it?  Perhaps some of our readers will
respond to you. I suggest you try to sell your ideas to
activist groups.  It is through mutual education and
understanding that we can move toward consensus.  Only
through mutual consensus can we act collectively and
organically.  Consensus is not about agreement on values or
beliefs - it is about collaborating for our mutual benefit.
Jews & Christians, Left & Right, Men & Women - we can all
build a barn together without agreeing on religion, beliefs,
economics, or even politics.  If we can pass the timber and
pound the hammer, we can do what is necessary.

love & solidarity,
rkm

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Subject: OPERATION 911 COUP AND COVERUP UPDATE: 5-9-02

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OPERATION 911 COUP AND COVERUP UPDATE: 5-9-02

BLOWING THE LID OFF THE OFFICIAL COVERUP STORY:

THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING!!!!

THE MASSIVE INTELLIGENCE "FAILURES" AND COVERUPS OF PRIOR 
KNOWLEDGE CAN ONLY BE ORCHESTRATED FROM THE TOP!

9-11 beginning of long-term plot?
Group analyzes attacks, says CIA needs 'truckload of pink slips'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27520

Inquiry of Intelligence Failures Hits Obstacles
Sept. 11: The lawmakers leading the investigation voice
concerns that the CIA and Justice Department are undermining
efforts. Sen. Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala.), vice chairman of
the Senate Intelligence Committee, declined to discuss the
committee's concerns with the CIA and the FBI in detail but
said: "There are problems we are going to have to address."
The flare-up centers on obstacles congressional
investigators say the agencies have strewn in their path.
The CIA, for example, has refused
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-000031609may04.story?coll=la-headlines-nation

Judge Rejects Jailing Of Material Witnesses
Ruling Imperils Tool in Sept. 11 Probe
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11562-2002Apr30.html

Official Bungling Claimed in 9-11 Intelligence
http://www.americanfreepress.net/02_17_02/Official_Bungling/official_bungling.html

Questions for Mueller, FBI and others
http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=149495&article=24767

THE PROOF OF A 9/11 FRAME-UP IS RIGHT BEFORE YOU
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/frameup.html

FBI Warned on Flight Schools in July
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/politics/wire/sns-ap-attacks-fbi-memo0503may03.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dpolitics%2Dheadlines

The Case for Bush Administration Advance Knowledge of 9-11 Attacks
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/042202_bushknows.html

INVESTIGATION: Sept 11th - Unanswered Questions
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0202/S00079.htm

Scandal Inside the FBI: Did G-Men Miss the Boat on 9-11?
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/3/13/94339.shtml

LT DELMART MIKE VREELAND - Homepage
http://members.freespeech.org/ltvreeland/

"The Great Deception"
Part 1 of a multi-part series (Part 2 airs Jan 28) (Part 3 airs Feb 4)
Transcript of Mon., Jan. 21 2002 Broadcast
What really happened on Sept. 11th?  “9/11 -- Part 1.”
http://www.visiontv.ca/programs/insight/mediafile_Jan21.htm

An argument for explosive demolition at the South Tower.
http://www.911-strike.com/demolition.htm

THE MOTIVES:

How the Pentagon Learned to Love the Weapon No One Wanted
The Carlyle Connection
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0218/gray.php

PENTAGON PSYOPS - AMERICAN AIRLINES FLIGHT 77.
http://www.nerdcities.com/guardian/SeptemberEleventh/WhatHitThePentagon/index.html

THE AFTERMATH:

Post-9/11 Pain Found to Linger in Young Minds: Thanks to the
CFR globalists
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/02/health/02SCHO.html?todaysheadlines

Strange Cluster Of Microbiologists' - Deaths Under The Microscope
http://www.rense.com/general24/exk.htm

Congressman Ron Paul, House of Representatives, November 29, 2001
Keep Your Eye on the Target
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/congrec2001/cr112901.htm

THE HISTORICAL PRECEDENTS

Operation Northwoods And The Reichstag Fire
http://www.rense.com/general24/operationnorthwoods.htm

AN OVERVIEW OF THE WAR ON TERRORISM
by Jim Marrs
http://www.jimmarrs.com/view/view102301.html

"U.S. GOVERNMENT PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF EMERGENCY"
by Sherman H. Skolnick 09/11/01
AMERICA'S REICHSTAG FIRE
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/pkem.html

BOOGYMAN FOR A NEW WORLD ORDER

Book alleges attempts to arrest Osama bin Laden blocked by the US
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/2001/1119/wor8.htm

Former Afghan President Doubts
Osama Behind WTC Attack
http://www.rense.com/general24/formerafghan.htm

America's Reichstag Fire
Osama bin Laden as Useful Idiot
http://www.thetexasmercury.com/articles/weber/PW20020317.html

911: The Road to Tyranny -- Watch the Entire Film Online 
http://www.infowars.com/
CLICK HERE - to view now:
http://sf.indymedia.org/uploads/the_road_to_tyranny__34kbps_.ram

Cover-up: CIA and the Justice Department Actively Impeding
Lawmakers' Efforts in 9-11 Probe
MEMBERS OF THE SENATE AND HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES ARE
SO FRUSTRATED WITH THE TACTICS, SOURCES SAID, THAT THEY
INTEND TO COMPLAIN DIRECTLY TO CIA DIRECTOR GEORGE J. TENET
AND ATTY. GEN. JOHN ASHCROFT
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-000031609may04.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dnation

Listen to Alex Jones tomorrow - for special show on 911-Govt
prior knowledge: The Alex Jones Show Airs Live Twice a Day
Mon-Fri from 11AM-2PM and from 9PM to Midnight (All Times US
Central Standard) -- In the UK GMT 5PM-8PM and 3AM-6AM)
http://www.infowars.com/
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